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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Alma, Oct 27, 2021
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  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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    "How do you know the Republicans won't just abolish the filibuster the second they regain control of the senate?"
    "They won't."
    "How do you know?"
     
    garrow, Oct 27, 2021
    #20522
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  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Azrael, Oct 27, 2021
    #20523
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  4. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    The principles of MAD persist. Even if China has a hot-shit new weapon, the era of first-world countries engaging in direct conflict has passed, because it will always result in nuclear holocaust.
     
    Justin_Rice, Oct 27, 2021
    #20524
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  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    There may be a bigger picture. ... China has never had a big nuclear arsenal, they left that stupidity to the U.S. and Russia and kept their weapony to only about 250 to 350 nukes.

    But with the START treaty between the U.S. and Russia having been extended recently, the expectation has been that sometime over the next few years there is going to be a whole new nuclear arms reduction treaty attempt, and it will likely be multilateral bringing in a lot of countries. ... and they will try to pull China into it, too. China may be thinking a few steps ahead. ... The U.S. and Russia have thousands of nuclear weapons each. China may be building up its arsenal of weapons to give itself chips and leverage in a future negotiation that it is anticipating.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 27, 2021
    #20525
  6. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    How many nuclear weapons does one need to have "chips and leverage"?

    We already know engaging China in a nuclear war is end-of-the-world stuff; And China knows engaging us in nuclear war is end-of-the-world stuff.
     
    Justin_Rice, Oct 27, 2021
    #20526
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Azrael, Oct 27, 2021
    #20527
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    The family of former education secretary Betsy DeVos was misled by Elizabeth Holmes when the former Theranos chief executive persuaded the billionaire dynasty to invest $100 million in the biotech start-up, a representative of the family’s office testified Tuesday.

    Good.
     
    heyabbott, Oct 27, 2021
    #20528
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know the exact dynamics at work or what China may ultimately want. I have never done a nuclear proliferation negotiation that involved two powerful adversaries. But here are the facts:

    1) The U.S. and Russia each have something like 5,000 to 6,500 nuclear weapons according to the limits of the START Treaty. And by extending it, they have agreed to stay at that number.
    2) China has way fewer nuclear weapons and maybe only 100 or 200 that are active. If they are sitting at a table 5 years from now with that as their starting point, they are at a distinct numbers disadvantage. It clealry limits their negotiating leverage. Which is why they may have seen the extension of the START Treaty as having given them an opportunity to a) build up their arsenal, and b) try to develop advanced weapons systems to make themselves more formidable if their absolute numbers remain relatively small in comparison to the U.S. and Russia.

    Nobody wants to end the world. But these countries will play chicken with the threat of ending the world to try to negotiate competitive advantages (as they see them).
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 27, 2021
    #20529
  10. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Sam Mills 51, Oct 27, 2021
    #20530
  11. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    They're gonna have to shoot a lot of grizzly bears down at the schoolyard to put food on the table.
     
    HanSenSE, Oct 27, 2021
    #20531
  12. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    This article is based on the false premise that Junior has showed his lack of empathy. I never thought he had any to start with.
     
    Neutral Corner, Oct 27, 2021
    #20532
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