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Why they hate us

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Jake from State Farm, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    A lot of these posts are about why we hate ourselves.

    Why these other mooks hate us has deep roots.

    The history of anti-press anti-intellectual anti-coastal elite hatred goes back to the founding of the Republic. It also goes back to mid-19th century European anti-Semitism, the Rothchilds and the notion the entire world was controlled by a shadow council of Jews. All of which was condensed into the hoax pamphlet Protocols of the Elders of Zion at the beginning of the 20th century, then repackaged and weaponized in the 1920s by Henry Ford in The Dearborn Independent as "The International Jew."

    Those hateful ideas remain in the American bloodstream to this day. If you poll Americans, an astonishing number will continue to say the same - that radical Jews control the media. Which is one of the many weirdnesses of christianist American conservatism: love Israel, hate Jews.

    Which is why we still see a specific kind of American halfwit shitposting about "cosmopolitan elites" and chanting "you will not replace us" and "blood and soil" to this day. It's heartbreaking. But not surprising.

    Distrust of the press in this country is as old as the country itself.

    Those old fears and hatreds are being deepened, widened and accelerated by social media.
     
  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    The lack of appreciation is the big thing for me as well. Best of luck on the interviews.
     
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  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    qed

    Michael Flynn says of the US: 'We have to have one religion'
     
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  4. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    Absolutely friend. Throughout my day, I have two co-anchors. “Cindy” isn’t the issue.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2021
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  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Sounds like, like most places, it's f'ing management.
     
  6. MeanGreenATO

    MeanGreenATO Well-Known Member

    Every time I see this thread title, I reflexively want to reply "because they ain't us."
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2021
  7. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    That's what we do here, hack
     
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  8. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    "They" didn't hate us until someone told them to hate us.
     
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  9. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I always think Palin is an underappreciated pioneer to this shit. Katie Couric exposed Palin as a fucking clown by asking the most basic of questions, and Palin responded by going all-in against the media. Her fans — not then the whole GOP — devoured it. She never tried to explain why she couldn't name a single book, magazine or newspaper she'd ever read. She said it was a "gotcha" question and a great many people just accepted that.

    I'm sure "attack the messenger" goes way back in political strategies, but I really see the blueprints for what Trump does in Palin: It doesn't what you did initially or how stupid and disingenuous you look in your rebuttle. Scream about the media and you'll be fine.
     
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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    “Annoy the Media: Re-elect Bush.” -- George Bush campaign bumber sticker, 1992

    "You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore. ..." Richard Nixon, 1962

    Really, politicians blaming the media goes back to the founding of the country.

    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.” Thomas Jefferson, 1800
     
  11. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Eh. Jefferson was definitely dealing with a bit of a different beast than Nixon and Bush, and certainly, the latter two never said "Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. … What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”

    Being mad at the media certainly isn't a novel idea for either party, but I'm not sure there's a question it's been taken up a notch in the last decade or so. If we end up in Jefferson's world, i.e. politicians writing vicious takedowns of one another under ancient Roman pseudonyms in strictly partisan outlets, well, at least we know we've survived that already.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, I agree with that. But that was Donald Trump. He'd lie and BS and lie some more, and when he was backed into a corner, he'd obfuscate. "The media" was the perfect BS tool for him, and what we still have is the carry over from him.
     
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