“Spider-Man: No Way Home” spoilers

For the people who have seen it.

Hoping to see it this weekend.

 

Saw it last night. Highly recommend it. My favorite Spider-Man movie and my favorite Marvel movie overall.

 

No one jumping in here much at the start?

It was amazing. I saw some minor complaints about the fan service, but who the eff cares, it was great! So awesome to see everyone finally show up and the crowd reaction too, even though it was pretty obvious it was going to happen.

The action hit the right notes. Lots of fun. And the redemption of Dr. Octopus was pretty cool. That said, I thought Willem Dafoe, Jamie Foxx and Alfred Molina stole a lot of scenes in this one.

The ending, didn't know what I thought at first when they first introduced it, but they did it really well with it in the end.

I have seen several spoiler reviews with people who really follow the MCU and Spider-Man, and get paid for such, say it was at least the best Spider-Man. It really was great.

I saw it by myself as some me time yesterday afternoon but am going again with my family in about an hour. It is not uncommon for me to see a movie a second time, but I am not sure I have ever done it so soon or been so excited to do so!

 

Both Goblin and Doc Ock were at least somewhat redeemed at the end of the Raimi movies: Norman Osborn with "don't tell Harry" and Ock with "I will not die a monster."
For that matter, all three villains in the kitchen sink production of Spider-Man 3 were redeemed to some extent: it's revealed Sandman only turned to crime to save his sickly daughter, Harry Osborn turns back to the good side, and Venom -- well, he pretty much stays a bad guy.

Actually to me it's the major flaw of the Raimi series. Let the villains stay villains.

 

Anyone bitching about fan service is just trying to find something to complain about it. Yes, there was fan service, but it was woven into the script well and worked fine. None of it was awkward like we’ve seen in a lot of other movies.

One of the things I loved was that this movie didn’t have a lull in it like a lot of Marvel movies do. Even when things slowed down and they weren’t fighting villains, the plot kept moving along briskly.

And I can’t wait to see what they do with Daredevil from here. Maybe we’ll get to see him in some of the movies and his own series again.

My biggest complaint was that they said folks who knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man would be coming from other dimensions, but Venom was there. There wasn’t a Peter Parker or Spider-Man in those movies, so bringing him in didn’t make sense. I wish they had explained that differently.

 

As I have seen it twice now, reactions in the theater were interesting. Both shows were sold out and one was mid-afternoon yesterday and about noon today. Lots more kids today.

The place went nuts with Daredevil yesterday. Freaking nuts. And both Spider-Man reveals were similar, but not quite as big.

Today, a decent reaction for Daredevil but not as big. Both Spider-Man entries, almost nothing.

Freaking kids!

 

Um, what is fan service?

 

A spectacular Spider-Man movie. Maybe the best yet, but I do remember loving Tobey's first two.

The Andrew reveal brought the house down. The three Peter Parkers pointing at each other was great fan service, even if they weren't wearing their costumes at the time. And rather dark what with killing Aunt May and erasing Peter from everyone's memory.

I didn't get at first why Spidey didn't know who Doc Ock and Green Goblin were. Finally realized they were retconning each Spider-Man actor as from a different multiverse. So great to see Tobey back and enjoying playing Peter Parker.

I do think Tom Holland has aged out of playing high-school Peter Parker, and maybe even college age. There's no chemistry between him and Zendaya on the screen even though they are dating in real life.

 

Just throwing in things that make fans happy for no reason other than they make the fans happy, like creating this in a scene:

 

That was easily the best Spider-Man movie and one of the better ones in the MCU. Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire had bigger roles than I expected, and the movie was better for it. The interaction among the three characters was great, and it brought some much-needed light to what is really a very dark story for Tom Holland's Spider-Man.

There was a big reaction to seeing Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock in the theater where I saw it, which left my daughter thoroughly confused. She has seen every Spider-Man movie, as well as the MCU ones, so she got most of the other reveals and loved them, but she has never seen any of the Netflix series. Really, there were two cheers for Murdock, one for when he is first seen on screen and then for the little demonstration of his abilities. Give Marvel credit for making the pieces fit so well, especially the connection with the most recent episode of Hawkeye.

There were some cool redemption arcs for multiple characters, including Doc Ock and the Garfield Spider-Man. Those didn't really surprise me, but they were still fun.

I can't say I love the post-credit scenes. I agree with JRoyal about Venom, though the hint at the end of that scene was interesting. I'm wondering if the second scene is somewhat connected to the What If? series. It certainly seemed like that might be the Strange Supreme version of the character showing up.

 

I'm going to say it in my too fresh in my mind state, very close to the best MCU movie for me. It hit all the right notes. And as you said, the chemistry of the three Spider-Men was fantastic. I also agree on the Grafield redemption. They played it so well. I have seen a few reviews that basically said this movie fixed the flaws from the first two franchises. Might go a little far, but it isn't stupidly far fetched.

So how did the Tobey Spidey know he was looking for the Holland Spidey?

 

That's a good question. Once you think about it, there are many more. If the people being pulled in from other universes were the ones who knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man, why was Electro there? He never knew Spider-Man's secret identity, and No Way Home makes it sound like he was pulled right from the end of his character's existence in Amazing Spider-Man 2. On a more practical note, does the spell mean there are no records of Peter Parker, too? That would explain the GED study guide he has at the end, but how can he even take that with no identification?

There are some things that don't make sense, but none of them occurred to me while I was watching the movie and they still don't bother me. I am curious if or how the spell can be undone. It is based on the One More Day storyline in the comics, which turned me off Spider-Man comics for a while, but this one goes deeper. In that version, people still knew both Spider-Man and Peter Parker. They just didn't know he was the same person. As soon as he unmasked in front of someone, the memories came flooding back to them. It seems like that won't work in this case.