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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


     
  2. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    I have no idea what sort of casualties the Russians are actually taken (especially to equipment). But I'm pretty sure the Russians are only going to become less and less capable as shit breaks/is destroyed.

    I have a hard time believing the Russians have been holding a bunch back. They probably needed to win this thing really quickly, and it seems like they've failed to do that.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    That's excellent, thanks.

    From the same guy:



    Guys, I'd urge you to stop a sec and look at both of those tweet strings if you didn't. There's a lot of good stuff in there.
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2022
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  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    They thought that the Ukrainians would roll over, and they half-assed it. I suspect that Biden throwing their active intelligence in Putin's face disconcerted them, for what that was worth.

    The Russian paratroopers landed and took Kyiv airport. There was inadequate follow up to hold it, the army and militia retook it and captured them. It was lost later, but that's not the point. There should have been immediate follow-on of troops flooding in and establishing a zone around it and continuing to push through it. I also think that there's a morale issue among some of the Russian troops about attacking the Ukraine. They can't "other" them, too close, too much history.
     
  5. Brian J Walter

    Brian J Walter Well-Known Member

    Well, just leave them out. And then eat ... whatever it is you're left with. (The eggs are the best part!)
     
  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    He has all those pallets of 100s Mnuchin was flying out on C-130s.
     
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  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I suppose that it's no longer true to say that no one knows, but his finances are still not public. We know he's overextended. Do we know what he has stashed away as the get away money in his bugout bag? No.
     
  8. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Team USA would have never attempted such an airborne assault without some degree of control over the airspace. Seems like the Russians fast forwarded right away to, "and then we'll take our slow-moving defenseless transports deep into enemy held territory."
     
  9. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

  10. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    People are so gullible. If a megayacht sinks in Spain, there has to be video. Good grief.
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

     
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Heard someone talking this morning about that being one of the things that makes no sense about how this war is playing out.
    When you think about when we invaded Iraq, both times the basic playbook was the same. The planes and cruise missiles go in first to take out radar stations, power plants, communications and other key infrastructure. You take out or capture the airfields to gain air superiority, which allows you to provide cover for your ground forces and interdict reinforcements and supplies. Even a one-star armchair general can figure out that strategy.
    Yet here we are now, almost a week into this thing, and Ukraine still has the lights on in its largest cities, working internet and some degree of communications. Even though they've got to be outnumbered, they're still able to contest their own airspace. They're also able to at least counter the information/propaganda war.

    So is the Russian military that incompetent? Or is there some other strategy in play here? It makes so little sense that you lean toward the latter, but maybe the answer is the former.
     
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