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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I think the best you can do is take an educated guess somewhere between any credible Russian estimates on the low end, and the likely-inflated Ukrainian estimates on the high end. I don't trust 11,000 dead either, but based on other information it seems safe to say the true number is probably in the high four figures.
     
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  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Russia is doing everything it can to obscure an accurate body count.

    The mobile crematoriums make it harder to know.

    Zelenskyy Says Russians Are Carrying Cremation Chambers Into Ukraine

    The Russian Defense Ministry on Wednesday announced that nearly 500 of its soldiers have been killed and another 1,600 injured, although Western estimates are significantly higher. Ukraine says its fighters have killed more than 5,000 Russian troops. An American official told The New York Times the figure is more like 2,000.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    On the other hand, I saw video this morning of a trainload of civilian trucks on railroad flatcars, on the way to Ukraine. All of them had a great big Z painted on the doors. Speculation was that there is a bad shortage of trucks among the Russians in Ukraine.
     
  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I thought Russia had put out some sort of statement saying that 5,000 had been lost?
    That's why I was figuring high four figures, just middling the difference between that and the Ukrainian claim.
     
  6. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    5,001 would be technically high four figures.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Impossible to tell.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/04/ukraine-russia-casualties-kyiv/

    The Ukrainian State Emergency Service has reported that more than 2,000 civilians have been killed since the invasion began, but that number has not been independently verified. Ukraine’s army said Friday that more than 9,000 Russian soldiers have died in fighting, but Moscow has announced that 498 of its troops have died and 1,597 been injured.

    Russia, in turn, claims 2,870 Ukrainian troops have been killed and more than 3,500 wounded. Ukraine disputes those numbers, providing the numbers of their casualties in the scores, with data provided by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in public statements. Ukraine’s military has been reticent to share figures on its own military casualties.

    On Friday, the director of the state-run morgue declined to discuss with Washington Post journalists the numbers of bodies received since Russia began its attacks.
     
  8. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    If Twitchy were still president, does anyone think Brittney Griner would have any strategic value to the US at all?
     
  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Netflix? Tik-Tok. Shits gettin' real.
     
  10. jlee

    jlee Well-Known Member

    Does she now?
     
  11. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    All the feels

     
  12. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Fuck the Times. Can we shoot Haberman at the Rooskies?
     
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