President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Brooklyn Bridge · Mar 30, 2022

Inky_Wretch said: ↑

Infowars is nothing but a front for Jones to sell collodial silver, "health" supplements and freeze-dried food to his idiot followers. That's where the money is. Along with, I'm sure, backchannel donations from Russia
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FTFY

Azrael · Mar 30, 2022

Azrael said: ↑

Governing this country in the traditional way you describe - cloakroom persuasion and legislation making its way through Congress - requires two parties acting in good faith.

At this moment in history, however, one of those parties has a) been pretty forthright in saying their goal is to dismantle/destroy the government and b) lost its fucking mind.

So in the interim, executive orders are one way to get done some of the things that need doing. There are plenty of checks and balances to undo Executive Orders. And historically, there have been many of them. Many. Going all the way back to George Washington. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders Beware the Imperial Presidency of . . . Calvin Coolidge!

So AOC is right on both counts.

As to whether or not she's correct about harnessing the more liberal instincts of the Democratic party, I can only refer you to current Democrats like Joe Manchin.
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How a bill becomes law:

garrow · Mar 30, 2022

Azrael said: ↑

Governing this country in the traditional way you describe - cloakroom persuasion and legislation making its way through Congress - requires two parties acting in good faith.

At this moment in history, however, one of those parties has a) been pretty forthright in saying their goal is to dismantle/destroy the government and b) lost its fucking mind.

So in the interim, executive orders are one way to get done some of the things that need doing. There are plenty of checks and balances to undo Executive Orders. And historically, there have been many of them. Many. Going all the way back to George Washington. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders Beware the Imperial Presidency of . . . Calvin Coolidge!

So AOC is right on both counts.

As to whether or not she's correct about harnessing the more liberal instincts of the Democratic party, I can only refer you to current Democrats like Joe Manchin.
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melock · Mar 30, 2022

matt_garth · Mar 30, 2022

Collins to Back Jackson for Supreme Court, Giving Her a G.O.P. Vote

TigerVols · Mar 30, 2022

wicked said: ↑

I’m sure he’s a cuck, which means he’d fit in.

The AOC wing of the party reminds me of what happened to Labour under Jeremy Corbin. He thought he was the smartest guy in the room, and he led the party off a cliff.
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You know who also thought he was the smartest guy in the room? Bill Clinton. Barack Obama. Their attitude got them elected 4 times to the highest office in the land.

Inky_Wretch · Mar 30, 2022

It’s a shame Collins doesn’t carry more weight in the GOP. This is pretty good.

Michael_ Gee · Mar 30, 2022

Put that in the "I told you so" file. The Democrats didn't need Collins' vote, so she gave it to them.

Brooklyn Bridge · Mar 30, 2022

Azrael said: ↑

How a bill becomes law:

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wicked · Mar 30, 2022

Michael_ Gee said: ↑

Put that in the "I told you so" file. The Democrats didn't need Collins' vote, so she gave it to them.
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This. Coward.

TigerVols said: ↑

You know who also thought he was the smartest guy in the room? Bill Clinton. Barack Obama. Their attitude got them elected 4 times to the highest office in the land.
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Obama had a skosh more humility, but your point is valid.

Azrael · Mar 30, 2022

Azrael said: ↑

Governing this country in the traditional way you describe - cloakroom persuasion, horsetrading, and legislation making its way through Congress - requires two parties acting in good faith.

At this moment in history, however, one of those parties has a) been pretty forthright in saying their goal is to dismantle/destroy the government and b) lost its fucking mind.

So in the interim, executive orders are one way to get done some of the things that need doing. There are plenty of checks and balances to undo Executive Orders. And historically, there have been many of them. Many. Going all the way back to George Washington. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders Beware the Imperial Presidency of . . . Calvin Coolidge!

So AOC is right on both counts.

As to whether or not she's correct about harnessing the more liberal instincts of the Democratic party, I can only refer you to current Democrats like Joe Manchin.
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Azrael · Mar 30, 2022

Azrael said: ↑

Governing this country in the traditional way you describe - cloakroom persuasion, horsetrading, and legislation making its way through Congress - requires two parties acting in good faith.

At this moment in history, however, one of those parties has a) been pretty forthright in saying their goal is to dismantle/destroy the government and b) lost its fucking mind.

So in the interim, executive orders are one way to get done some of the things that need doing. There are plenty of checks and balances to undo Executive Orders. And historically, there have been many of them. Many. Going all the way back to George Washington. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders Beware the Imperial Presidency of . . . Calvin Coolidge!

So AOC is right on both counts.

As to whether or not she's correct about harnessing the more liberal instincts of the Democratic party, I can only refer you to current Democrats like Joe Manchin.
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