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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    fake
     
  2. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    The judges also would have accepted C. Thomas Mandel.
     
  3. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Any attorney or other expert on here: What say you?
     
  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    Defamation is a statement that injures a third party's reputation. The tort of defamation includes both libel (written statements) and slander (spoken statements).

    Elements
    To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.

    In The New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), the Supreme Court held that for a publicly-known figure to succeed on a defamation claims, the public-figure plaintiff must show that the false, defaming statements was said with "actual malice." The Sullivan court stated that"actual malice" means that the defendant said the defamatory statement "with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." The Sullivan court also held that when the standard is actual malice, the plaintiff must prove actual malice by "clear and convincing" evidence, rather than the usual burden of proof in a civil case, which is the preponderance of the evidence standard. On this point, the precise language the Sullivan court uses is that the plaintiff must show "the convincing clarity which the constitutional standard demands."

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    Could Marge be sued for libel? It's definitely "reckless disregard for the truth," which would fit "actual malice." But the three people mentioned would have to prove they suffered specific harm from Greene's statement. As elected officials who are in the public eye, "clear and convincing" defamation is a high bar to reach. The problem isn't proving Greene's an idiot. It's proving an idiot's words are being taken seriously.

    And to be honest, it would only give Marge more spotlight than she deserves, which is zero f---s given.
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2022
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  6. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

  7. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    I've been thinking about libel/slander charges for her for a while. But maybe she just doesn't quite cross the line. Maybe the legal community can add a "lying" clause to this and take down every Republican who rises to prominence.
    Libel/slander/lies.
     
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  8. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    The most disappointing aspect of Taylor Greene political career is that she will likely be re-elected.
     
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  9. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    You love to see it

     
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  10. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Party of law and order

     
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  11. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Won’t anyone think of their children?

     
  12. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

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