Ukraine Always Get What You Want

I haven't thought much about global civilian nuclear war since the Frankie Goes To Hollywood video.

However, I did undergo emergency training in the very, very late 1980s or very, very early 1990s (I forget which) where a nuclear attack is survivable (outside of a direct hit, of course). Most nukes will be air bursts to maximize the blast radius and will create fallout that is insignificant.

There are four main effects with a nuclear bomb: Heat, blast, radiation and EMP. The resulting city fires from a massive bombing were what most authorities cited as causing a "nuclear winter" in the 1980s.

The EMP is much scarier because it could throw the country back into the 1880s.

 

I’m Banned from Facebook for six days for posting a picture of Russian war atrocities

 

And yet you can still post here.

 

At least it's no beheading of Nick Berg.

 

That’s allowed because dead Jews is generally looked favorably upon by most of the world.

 

Having mulled and considered, the EU is now weighing.




Ukraine Live Updates: Western Allies Move to Further Isolate Russia Over Atrocities

 

NATO?

More meetings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/07/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/

 

Russia-Ukraine war: Ukraine pleads for more weapons from Nato as Zelenskiy dismisses fresh sanctions – live news

 

Putin won this thing the day he invaded.

The rest is just reckoning the cost.

 

I couldn't disagree more with that statement. In what way is Russia, or even his conception of Russia, better off than it was before the war started? What has he won?

 

Putin gets a negotiated settlement for the eastern third of Ukraine. He'll get Crimea, Donbas and Luhansk at a minimum, and probably more. Only Putin knows what price Putin is willing to pay for those things.

Russia doesn't win anything. Russia suffers.

 

What evidence is there this is what will happen? I mean, it could, but that's unknown as of yet. And the cost is already very high for as yet unknown gains. Since Putin's original goal was the overthrow of Ukraine's government and its annexation, de jure or de facto, by Russia, such an outcome would be a long long way from "winning." The US achieved its original goal when it invaded Iraq in 2003. We overthrew Saddam Hussein. Who thinks we "won" that war?