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Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by outofplace, May 3, 2022.

  1. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Lol. Except one side did it to try to make things better for people and the other side is doing to take rights away from people but I don't expect you to ever acknowledge that truth. But since I'm a woman I suspect you just want me to shut the hell up because I'm inferior to the penis people?
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    That's not the same thing. At all.
     
  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    "Making things better for people" is always subjective. As many people are celebrating this ruling as making things better, as are excoriating it for unleashing all of the world's horrors on future generations. There are intelligent arguments to be made for both points of view. Few people seem inclined to hear them, much less consider them.

    This particular ruling would, of course, affect abortion, but it really seems to be more of a states rights issue. As in, it is returning power to the states and taking some of it away from the federal government and even the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is not unilaterally allowing abortion. It is allowing each state to set its own local laws regarding it. If the state legislatures want to codify it, even expand it right up to the moment of birth (as some seem to want to do), they can do that. If some would want to outlaw it or restrict it, they can do that too.

    But I'm just a penis person, so what do I know? My tiny insect brain that only wants to rape women and spread my seed across the world without consequence couldn't possibly comprehend the depth of any of this.

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  4. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Fair point. That justification seems to be reserved solely for Democrats liberals progressives.
     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    $1,000 to the person who says (about any SCOTUS decision), "Personally, I'm sorry to see that decision. . . but I have to admit, constitutionally it was right on the mark."
     
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  6. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The “point of birth” argument is such bullshit. For one thing, the late-term process takes two or three days. For a second thing, only 1 percent of abortions are in the second 20 weeks of a pregnancy; meaning 99 percent are done when the fetus is a non sentinent clump of non-viable cells. For a third thing, a lot of those 1 percent are for emergency situations in which the woman WANTS to have a child, but cannot for health reasons, either her’s or the fetus’.

    For a fourth thing, no woman is deciding at the point of birth that she want an abortion. She may already have the baby’s room set up; already had a baby shower, already picked out the hospital to give birth, or decide to have a home birth.

    And the whole “states’ rights” issue is also bullshit. Like it or not, this is one country. Civil rights should not depend on what area of the country one lives in.
     
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  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    What is the enumerated executive or legislative power that allows the federal government to ban abortion. Remember that murder in and of itself in not a federal offense.
     
  8. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Medicare isn’t an enumerated power and yet we have it.
     
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  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    And like this proposed federal ban on abortion that is just this close to being enacted, it was somehow enacted without anyone knowing anything was afoot.
     
  10. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Nice argument but this one takes a civil liberty that is enjoyed by many—right to privacy and access to healthcare without government intrusion—and denying it to a specific group. That isn’t how the constitution ought to be applied.
     
  11. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I mean there’s a lot the federal government can do that isn’t enumerated.
     
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  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh, sure. I might have been swiping at some other poster's nonsense.
     
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