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Elon Musk takes over Twitter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I guess all federal prisoners must be released, since Congress must be the sole body responsible for enforcing federal law and not the DOJ.

    What the actual fuck, 5th Circuit?
     
  2. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Also, the chair of the SEC is Senate-confirmable. So this IS Congress enforcing the laws. Jesus Fucking Christ.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    They didn't rule that the SEC is unconstitutional. What they ruled was that the in-house administrative law judges violate people's right to a jury trial, Congress has been delegating legislative power to the SEC illegally since the Dodd-Frank act in 2008, and that the whole thing violates the take care clause in article II of the constitution.

    The SEC can still be an enforcement body, it just can't make up the law itself, and then be judge, jury and executioner doing the jobs of the legislature and executive the way the Constitution specifies. It's not like the SEC had no enforcement authority before 2008.

    If Elon Musk violates any securities laws he can still be prosecuted. Just not via a shakedown by a bureaucracy with unlimited resources, its own judges, and the ability to drown you in legal costs while denying you a jury trial.
     
  4. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    It's all just so unfair!
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    People who are anti-authoritarian and care about the rule of law think so.
     
  6. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Repping for the truth.

    Indeed!
     
  7. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Yeah, not surprising a libertarian, like a Sith, sees things only in absolutes.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    NOBUDDUH TELLZ US WHUT TA DEW
     
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  9. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    THE 5TH CIRCUIT AIN'T EVEN GIVE THE SEC A CHANCE, PAWWWWWWL!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  10. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  11. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I've long argued that Tesla has been the poster child of the bubble that was blown on the back of all the mispriced debt. And even with the stock price having come back off the peak, Tesla is still trading at a little less than 100 times earnings. If it is ever valued like other car companies, say, 5 or 6 times earnings, Tesla is less than a $50 stock at its current earnings. Valuations are historically still ridiculous, but that is what excessive leverage does. And Tesla has barely even come down, even as some of the other crazy things that got pumped full of leveraged gambling are 60, 70 percent off their peaks right now. In fact, if equity selling gets bad, it might not be a bad strategy to watch Tesla as a guide for when the carnage may be near an end. It led the way for about a decade (much of it when it had no earnings, collected subsidies, borrowed a ton of money and kept diluting its stock with secondary offerings), so it may be the last chip to fall.

    Then factor in a wounded global economy in which a year from now, way fewer people may be able to afford $75,000 cars, and if that brings the e part (earnings) of the P/E ratio down, well, you could see that stock deflate a whole lot and bring his net worth way down from here.
     
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