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Should a columnist accept an offer of an off-the-record lunch with the president?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Mr. X, May 23, 2022.

  1. Mr. X

    Mr. X Active Member

  2. Mr. X

    Mr. X Active Member

    When should a reporter seek or accept an offer of an off-the-record lunch or dinner, like with a coach?
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    That this White House figured Friedman would be any help to them on anything, makes me realize this White House still thinks its the '90s.
     
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  4. Mr. X

    Mr. X Active Member

    What media figures can help this White House?
     
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Sad to say, Joe Rogan, Howard Stern, Barkley, Ryan Seacrest and Kelly Clarkson.
     
  6. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    It’s happened a million times.

    Maybe very few of them wrote a stupid column about it.
     
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  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    You're the President of the United States. You can have lunch with ANYONE in the country if you so desire. The finest minds, the greatest wits, the best conversationalists. And you pick one of the nation's most prominent crashing bores? A man who's famous for dull? I know Biden is an old and a middlebrow normie, but this is sad.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The NY Times has 8.4 million subscribers, most of whom vote, most of whom likely voted for Biden last time, and many of whom are wavering on him right now if you believe opinion polls. The lunch wasn't going to hurt Biden, and it could only possibly help. Having lunch with Friedman wasn't about Friedman. It was about the people who read Friedman's paper.
     
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  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Exactly. A columnist having lunch on background with a president or a coach or a fire chief or shortstop isn't an ethical breach.

    That Friedman couldn't keep his mouth shut about an off-the-record luncheon is pretty poor manners, however.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    BUT, if Biden wanted to influence readers, he should've gone on the record. All this column was was Friedman telling readers what HE, Tom Friedman thinks and that HE, Tom Friedman, is important enough to have lunch with the President. Biden is like a very minor character in this piece.
     
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  11. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Joe Paterno used to talk to reporters on background the night before every home game, apparently with some adult beverage in hand. No word on whether that’s when Jerry Sandusky did his horrible deeds. So this is not new. The Biden White House has been through this rodeo; these guys knew that this would not stay off the record.
     
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  12. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I get the impression that the "strategy" for the Dems this cycle is to be outraged about things Republicans say and hope that spurs turnout. Rather than say, come up with reasons to vote for Democrats.
     
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