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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  3. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    When has Russia ever flourished?

    I weep for humanity. It's happening again and we are powerless to act.
     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  6. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    That's because this has become a seemingly unending war of attrition, with nothing significantly changing in all the time it has gone on.

    Also, the U.S., which can make the greatest difference, has done all that's going to do, and so, again, nothing, apparently, is going to change or be any different than it is now.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Great news for Putin.

     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    They took away a majority from Macron, so he'll have to poach MPs from the LP, which maybe isn't the worst thing for France. Le Pen will be a giant pain in the ass, but it's not like it makes France into a puppet of Putin. It gives her some power to obstruct some things, it gives her no power to actually do anything. Honestly, the fact that Melenchon's party is going to now have 149 seats says as much about how f'd up that country is as the National Front (or whatever she is calling it now) doing that well. That country is going down the tubes.
     
  9. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    They weren't already? Damn.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's what Americans always say about France. That's what England has said about it for 1000 years. And yet, there it is. France will have legislative gridlock. Gosh, that sounds familiar. People voted for Macron because LePen was unthinkable, but many of those voters still thought he was an asshole. So when they had to express that opinion, they did.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's not like people didn't vote for LePen because she was unthinkable. She got 42 percent of the vote. This is a movement, and yeah, it's being helped along by nobody really liking Macron. But this is less about Macron than the fact that the country has destroyed itself by embracing the worst of European economically destructive "policy." As demonstrated by Melenchon being that relevant and keeping his own stranglehold over the country.

    The people voting for LePen have had enough of the strikes, the system of transfer payments that half the country milks, the strangling of small businesses, and telling people who they can employ and under what terms to the point that many businesses have shut their doors. They have destroyed themselves. The votes for LePen are an extreme rebellion against that. And that is not Macron, that has been decades in the making. Everyone hates Macron because he isn't offering candy to either side. When he tells them that they are nearly bankrupt and they have to raise the retirement age before people receive a government pension, they take to the streets and riot. When he promises work for everyone, the rest of the country hears same old, same old.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    BTW, I'm not an American saying the same thing Americans always say. The National Front has never come anywhere close to this kind of support, even in the 80s when her dad got them to win a bunch of seats.
     
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