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Running 2022 Golf Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Neutral Corner, Jan 6, 2022.

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  1. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    OK ... but the concept of Charles Barkley offering swing tips would be a turrible move.
     
    Sam Mills 51, Jul 19, 2022
    #1105
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  2. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    You should get out more.
     
    justgladtobehere, Jul 19, 2022
    #1106
  3. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    @doctorquant didn't vote for Trump
     
    JC, Jul 19, 2022
    #1107
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

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    poindexter, Jul 19, 2022
    #1108
  5. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    I doubt that he's a "true believer," but like just about anyone in golf, he probably enjoys cozying up to the rich and powerful and anyone who'll lower his taxes.

    In the midst of all this, I found myself frustrated. I mean, I think I know why most of the participants are into this farce (money) but why would the Saudis be in on golf? Kind of hard to get a quick 18 in while wearing a kaffiyeh in Riyadh in June, but that's probably it. More than any other sport, golf is full of people who are willing to suck up to dignitaries, whether it be MBS or Judge Smails, and professionally unscrupulous enough to cash the checks.
     
    UPChip, Jul 19, 2022
    #1109
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Chip gets at something that I have never gotten about LIV. If the Saudis are in it to improve their public image in the US and Europe, surely they must see by now (they're not stupid) it's a dismal failure that in fact has had the opposite effect. Like most Americans, golf fans don't think much about foreign countries or policy. Now, they are seeing Saudi Arabia in their field of interest and it has reminded them, "hey, those guys suck. It's a terrible country!"
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jul 19, 2022
    #1110
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  7. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    Norman still appears on Fox promoting LIV and other ventures
    Wonder if a deal with Fox is in LIV’s future
     
    Jake from State Farm, Jul 19, 2022
    #1111
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  8. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    A dismal failure? They're stealing players left and right, and now charismatic broadcasters. The events themselves are well-run from what I've heard. They've got the PGA Tour scrambling to adjust their schedule. I think they believe that if they can just hold the line for a year, a lot of the criticism will go away. Because sports fans forgive a lot of things and the golf media can't ask Phil and Co. the same questions forever.

    Bottom line is there's still a lot of golf fans that just want to see Bryson pound a drive, Phil hit a flop, Patrick Reed tamp down a lie and Dustin Johnson's overall freakness. And LIV is serving some markets that would never see that in person otherwise. No one can say this wasn't pretty well thought out.
     
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    playthrough, Jul 19, 2022
    #1112
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I hope everyone has someone in their life who has their back like @playthrough has for LIV golf.
     
    poindexter, Jul 19, 2022
    #1113
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  10. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    I get that the Saudis literally have blood on their hands … but we’ve had some pretty awful pro sports team owners in the states, too, over the years.

    I think once the LIV Tour is around a little longer and gets on TV, fans will have short memories about how the new league got its start.
     
    I Should Coco, Jul 19, 2022
    #1114
  11. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Is a 14-tournament schedule doable? That's only a quarter of the year -- and that's an increase from the current schedule. Being on and off each week (or two or three or four) won't help. No Sunday finishes, so wasting a weekend day. Overseas events won't help with TV in the States. Assuming they get a TV partner.

    It all feels like a December hit-and-giggle event.

    A U.S. TV partner and being allowed into the majors are obviously the key. Seems the R&A is ready to take a hard stand. But will it ultimately?
     
    MileHigh, Jul 20, 2022
    #1115
  12. Typist Clerk

    Typist Clerk Well-Known Member

    There will be evolution to the revolution. As LIV continues to add players, I see this happening:

    The 14-tournament (18 including the majors for those qualifying) schedule expands to 18-20;

    Sunday play and a cut is added (“We’re evolving,” Norman will say, noting it will help the World Rankings issue);

    The shotgun start is used only on weekdays, and is split into mornings and afternoons;

    At some point (say, the third year), LIV drops signing bonuses and institutes qualifying, both yearly and weekly (say the last six spots in a 90-player field, which is about the size of the Masters). By this point, Fox signs on and some tournaments have sponsors;

    The team aspect, with outside investors, doesn’t catch on and is shelved;

    All that makes it like every other tour, only richer. And if there are ranking points, it becomes the No. 1 tour, like it or not.
     
    Typist Clerk, Jul 20, 2022
    #1116
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