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Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by outofplace, May 3, 2022.

  1. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member



    I wouldn't know, I wasn't there. If I had to guess, she did not address abortion, but there had been students and faculty who had decried putting her into that speaking slot.

    That's usually how this goes, right? It's not that unusual an interaction, it was just good video (and good symbolism) with the medical white coats walking out. That's why the tweet got noticed.



    I like the new profile picture.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    The sun also rose in the East this morning.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member



    Seemed a safe bet.
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    She's probably eminently qualified to deliver the speech, and more than likely has done so before. OTOH, given the repeal of Roe, this becoming an issue was indeed "Sun rose in the East" predictable, perhaps some blame should also go to the administration who scheduled her.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

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  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I think there's always an interesting philosophical debate to be had in the realm of medical ethics and advocacy regarding any individual doctor's conscientious objection to performing or recommending certain procedures or courses of treatment.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2022
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Check out the AMA Code of Ethics, Section 1.1.7 ...

    And this from the monster whose mere presence so disturbed those young people of science: "I do not believe that we should ever force a healthcare provider to perform or provide therapies or interventions to which they have a moral objection. It is generally accepted that a patient's right of autonomy does not trump the physician's parallel right to conscientiously abstain from a practice on religious or moral grounds provided that (1) the physician provides the patient information that would allow her to seek care with another health care provider who does not have such reservations and (2) the physician's refusal to treat does not endanger the patient's life or result in serious harm.

    And while it’s the physician’s right to not prescribe a medication or perform a therapy/procedure that they have objection to, it is never acceptable to refuse to see an individual/person. The refusal can be to therapies or medications, but never to persons."
     
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  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    All true.

    But Collier isn't just making personal/professional decisions about whom she will and won't treat, or what treatment she will or won't provide.

    She's taking a public advocacy position on those beliefs and those treatments.

    Medicine and accepting the difficult truths



    So to me this is a little bit of an ethical tangle.

    That said, everyone involved exercised their right to speak.

    Play on.
     
  10. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Well, we can't have that.

    I suppose many of those walker-outers were heading straight to the registrar's office to initiate records requests for transfers elsewhere. Because if you can't sit in the same room during a ceremony in which such a monster is speaking (about something other than abortion, no less!), can you imagine how awful it would be to be studying medicine at a school at which she's actually on the faculty?
     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Part of freedom of speech is the freedom not to hear someone. To register disapproval is also speech. But you probably knew that and just forgot it
     
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