MLB 2022: The Long and Winding Thread

Oh his knee injury as a rookie yet he was still Mantle!

OK, perhaps his ACL fell into the lucky third where it didn't affect/effect what he needed to do be Mantle!

After an ACL-tear and within management, there is a “rule of threes” suggested. One-third of all ACL-tears can resume normal activities without limitations, one-third will require a decrease in their activity levels or modifications to improve stability, and one-third will require an ACL-reconstruction to return to normal activities. The process of determining management should take the patient’s activity level and their desired return-to-activity into effect. And ACL-reconstructions should serve to return the individual to regular activities.

Not all ACL Injuries Require Surgery - Vertex PT Specialists​

The surgeon who redid Adrian Peterson's knee ligament said he's never seen a purer knee.

“I can’t believe it,” Andrews told Peterson’s parents, according to the article. “For this guy to have played as much football as he’s played his whole life, and not to have hardly any wear and tear, it’s incredible. I’ve never seen a football player, especially one who runs and cuts as much as he does, with a knee in that condition. It’s like a newborn baby.”

https://www.twincities.com/2012/11/...ersons-newborn-baby-knee-left-surgeon-in-awe/​

So maybe the Mick had an injured but magically durable knee too.

 

Judge hit 40 and 41 last night.

When Bonds hit 73 in '01 he had 38 thru June and 44 thru July so Judge has a shot.

Barry Bonds 2001 Batting Game Logs | Baseball-Reference.com

 

Mantle’s Knee Injury Was Just the Start (Published 2012)

In “The Last Boy: Mickey Mantle and the End of America’s Childhood,” published in 2010, the biographer Jane Leavy took a fresh look at his injuries through the lens of modern medicine and posited that the damage was serious, that he tore his meniscus, anterior cruciate ligament and medial collateral ligament, injuries that were never truly diagnosed — or repaired.

 

We spend so much tine worrying about wear and tear, when most of it is just genetics.

LeBron James wasn’t going to get hurt, save for the flukiest of fluky injuries.

 

Everyone who watched Mantle said he lost a step a

everyone that watched him play said that he lost a step after that injury. He was not as fast out of the box that he was prior to that injury.

 

I used to have discussions all the time with Boston friends who would argue Bobby Orr was the greatest hockey player of all time
I always argued for Gordie Howe and said if Orr hadn’t got hurt it might be different
Same with Mantle
That both were as great as they were despite their injuries says something
Plus if they were athletes today with medical advances, but that’s like saying suppose my mother and father never met

 

Mantle struggled before the knee injury and was sent back down, and yes I know, he was just 19.

What if he continues along the natural trajectory of not tearing his knee and is never more than average?

Using the modern lens of suppositional recency bias ... or something ... maybe Mickey Mantle isn't MICKEY MANTLE without the knee injury.

There are all kinds of ways to look at it.

I just think it's funny that those of a certain age get rubbed the wrong way when Trout and Mantle are used in the same sentence.

 

Lol what?

come on.

 

Exactly what I wrote. Azrael said but the knee stopped Mick from being even better!

What if he didn't hurt the knee and was just an average player? That could have happened.

Or what if he had 3-4 great years then petered out, like Lincicum who won back to back Cy Youngs in his early years then never amounted to much afterward.

That's the beauty of What If?

 

Never said that.

 

JMO but part of baseball's problem is that too many people today are talking about Mickey Mantle, whose heyday was 60 years ago.

And there is some revisionist history going on with Ohtani. Remember the Jeff Passan yahoo.com article quoting major league scouts saying Ohtani couldn't hit major league pitching.

And our own idiot Dick Whitman kept doubling down that Ohtani was going down to the minors.