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MLB 2022: The Long and Winding Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Starman, Mar 18, 2022.

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  1. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

  2. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't know much about the rest of the prospects, but Waldichuck is a good one.
     
  4. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    And the chances they make the playoffs if they keep him are what?

    Maybe they did him a favour giving him a legitimate shot at a World Series.
     
  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    This is ridiculous. Trading an older player whose contract expires is supposed to be some
    indictment of the O’s?

    If the don’t pay there young guys and move on from them then you will have a point.
     
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  6. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    As of today, the projections for Baltimore to make the playoffs was a little more than 20 percent. My point is that what they got doesn't guarantee success in the future any more that keeping Mancini making the playoffs. It was that you have a really good thing going, fans are excited again and you make a move where you subtracted something significant from a clubhouse of young guys and didn't add say, another team's top prospect or a top 100 prospect that you can justify. The two prospects fit in No. 8 and No. 12 on the Orioles top 30 list.

    It may have changed in the last couple hours but everything reported said he wanted to stay.
     
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  7. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Does it just seem like Judge is saying "its time for me to act like I'm the HS dude playing LL?"
     
  8. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Teams do have an alternative to losing a valued player in free agency. It's called an extension. Maybe it's my advancing age, but I am increasingly skeptical (and I was always pretty skeptical) of these take it down to the studs projects we see in baseball and other sports. In short, I do not trust the process. I won't until they come with a date certain. If the Orioles say, "come back in 2026, we'll be great," they might be totally wrong, but at least then their fans could tune out until then.
     
  9. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Have you not watched baseball in the last ten years? look at the team he as trade to and tell me how they were built?
    And how is trading a soon to be free agent tearing it down to the studs?

    Most sports have finally figured out that you don’t sign older players to term and big money. You don’t pay for the past.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Mancini is fucking 30! Same age as Aaron Judge. Perhaps I'm behind the times, but paying money for the past at least you got something. What the Orioles have is not paying for a future that never comes. Tomorrow is always a season or two away.
     
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  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    What the Orioles brass missed here, what bad front offices always miss, is the intangible effects.

    Mancini galvanized that locker room. He was a folk hero of sorts in the town because of his cancer comeback. And together, the team began thinking it could win. But they had to go in and tear out the heart for hit-or-miss futures.

    Just the type of guy you lock up for years. And they didn't want to spend the money to do it.
     
  12. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Michael, did you just compare Mancini and Judge?

    You are the one who defended the Phillies for the Howard contract because they had no choice. They damn well did have a choice it’s called not making emotional decisions. Someone is also going to grossly overpay Judge. I’m not signing anyone in there 30’s to big money and term. It rarely works.

    You are acting like the Orioles are a contender. They aren’t, but if you think they are, should they be dealing there young talent for proven veterans?
     
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