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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Then I’m not really wrong. The costs will be high either way. If superstorms and water wars are at our doorstep, if the die is already cast, a drastic cut in consumption awaits, and may as well be enacted now.

    While I’m personally skeptical, I’m at least logical. A sincerely concerned person would look at the NYT’s presentation of UCLA research and leave California as soon as possible. A skeptic might think the presentation was over the top, but that skeptic is to a sincere person a foolish non believer, living in the past.
     
  2. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Lives … dollars

    lives … dollars

    oooh tough choice

    fucker
     
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  3. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    There are places upriver on the Rhine where it actually disappears underground for a stretch before reappearing.
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The cost of both is high either way.

    if the water wars are upon us drastic cuts in consumption are necessary. Like not watering our lawns ever. Which, I don’t. Ever.
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Either way? How much of a price do you put on the lives of the people you love? Oh it will cost me an extra $200 to cool my home, my best friend and die. Oh my fire insurance is an extra $5,000 per quarter, sorry mom.

    Hey, how’s your sub applications going or are you content letting people die so you are comfortable?

    If you can put a price on your kids lives vs your comfort you are a true piece of shit.
     
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  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    We’re talking past each other here. You don’t like me and repeatedly continue to reference some discussion from two years ago that I can’t even recall.
     
  7. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    You were completely wrong. You said the cost of climate change policies will hurt more than actual climate change. Climate change is already impacting insurance costs, drastically in some places. And it's killing people. Both will get worse in ways far, far more expensive than the policies trying to combat it.
     
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  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Here is where we disagree: If it - climate change - is as bad as you say it is, if water wars are right around the corner, the current policies, at the current pace, aren't nearly enough, IMO. It, IMO, will require far more drastic measures.

    I'm skeptical it's as bad as you think it is, but, if it is that bad, I am not skeptical about what it'll take to fix.

    Remember: The whole world was shut down for a good 6 months in 2020. As horrific as COVID was and is - let me repeat the line, lest I'm accused of downplaying that - the pandemic, according to NASA, "drastically decreased air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions within just a few weeks. That sudden change gave scientists an unprecedented view of results that would take regulations years to achieve."

    We've already had, in a sense, a notable climate change policy enacted. And it didn't change the tone on climate change one bit. So the tone is either overheated, or it is properly heated, and we're way, way short of what's needed to solve this.

    IMO...I just don't see how both things can be true. But, again, maybe they are and I'm the fool. Honestly, I hope that's true.
     
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  9. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    The Rhine is normally navigable all the way to Basel on the Swiss border. That's right, Switzerland has a connection to the sea. Who knew?
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Azrael Well-Known Member

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    Azrael Well-Known Member

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