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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry to say that after working on Oakland for 30+ yrs and observing the City machinations, political and education, I'm not hopeful for what OUSD does. They are this huge entrenched institution that is stuck on just keeping what it has. Now, almost every promising student that I'm aware of from Oakland went to private schools so there is serious brain drain going on. Even so, they have never struck me as particularly adept at teaching their students or improving their performance. Admittedly, not a scientific examination, purely anecdotal, but this is a message board, not a peer review process.
     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Making the wrong answers the right answers improves test scores. Spelling and grammar are the tools of the oppressor.
     
  3. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    Pristine grammar is not the life value people on this forum might think it is.
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Text messages and Internet forums are exempt from the strict rules of grammar. Winter rules apply.
     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You didn’t read the story, did ya?

    Also, increasingly, middle class and upper class parents would answer your question with “by taking my kids to a charter, micro or home school.”
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Who sets the curriculum and teaching methods in the Oakland Public schools? Can teachers en masse say, "We don't want to teach it this way, we are going to teach it that way"?

    Because my gut (which may be wrong) and between-the-lines detector is putting a picture like this into my head: They had a phonics based curriculum. Some numbnuts (or a bunch of numbnuts) working way above the pay grade of the typical 4th grade teacher decided to turn how they teach reading into a multicultural educational experience (i.e. -- the new curriculum that emphasized "rich literary experiences."). ... and reading scores went down.

    I may be guessing all wrong. But a throwaway line in that story has somehow established that teachers in Oakland didn't like phonics, so they replaced the whole curriculum. And my question is, do teachers have the power in Oakland to dictate curriculum choices?
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I thought the main conservative resistance to change from phonics was that some French socialist was the person behind the "new" reading method.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    It’s Weaver’s characterization of himself, too. Hence the word “we.”
     
  9. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    You got me, I wrote that before reading the article; then I read the article. Still not a fan of complaining.
     
  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    School districts tend to buy curricula for many reasons - including teacher feedback.
     
  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I can live with that, I suppose. What I can't live with are the people who wear that lack of good grammar as a badge of honor.
     
  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The story as you know is not really about parents complaining. It’s about teachers coming clean: Yeah, we didn’t know what we were doing.

    And I have no problem saying schools are indeed compensating for lousy parenting and/or a culture that no longer values good parenting. I think public schools need to cash out on all the social work/safety net stuff they do, and make schools excellent, strict environments for learning.
     
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