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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    My point was tongue in cheek to point out a way to be taken care of in old age for those of us who have been paying in all our lives.
     
    Driftwood, Nov 4, 2022
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  2. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    Just relax and remember how absolutely terrible today’s GOP is at actually governing.

    It’s gonna be a hell of a show.
     
    Justin_Rice, Nov 4, 2022
    #47030
  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

     
    garrow, Nov 4, 2022
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  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I could see McCarthy end up being pushed aside for someone seen as a Trumpier Speaker. Hell, they're already at war with each other over committee chairs. McCarthy doesn't have a tight grip on the caucus like DeLay did when he put Hastert in as a figurehead Speaker. And Boehner and Ryan both struggled as well and they were three times the tactiticians as McCarthy is.
     
    DanOregon, Nov 4, 2022
    #47032
  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    garrow, Nov 4, 2022
    #47033
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You might be sleep deprived. 538 isn't quite that negative. Still sees basically a toss up in the Senate for who'll control it.

    My sense is it'll be 50/50. I don't think Herschel's going to win. Or Masters. Perhaps not even Oz; it's possible people see Fetterman, they see a man trying very hard to do his best, and appreciate that an vote for him. (Whether it's the best thing for him clearly doesn't matter to anyone around him.)
     
    Alma, Nov 4, 2022
    #47034
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Azrael, Nov 4, 2022
    #47035
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    There have been lots of places and times when one of the parties had complete control of the legislature and executive, and it was all determined via a democratic process. If the people in Wisconsin vote for that in a fair election, c'est la vie.

    Now, if those Republicans try to use their supermajority to overturn the democratic institutions and rule of law norms that ensure free and fair elections, yeah, it's a problem. We'll see if that happens. Our democracy has been tested often, and even though it is often a messy process, our system has held up fairly well compared to just about any other place in the world. I'm as cynical as anyone, but I actually do have a decent amount of faith that it will be fine, most likely with the judiciary acting as a check if they go too far to mess with elections.
     
    The Big Ragu, Nov 4, 2022
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  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Recall only that the Wisconsin legislature is so gerrymandered that in 2018 that when 53 percent of the electorate voted for a Democrat, Republicans won 63 percent of the seats. That seems more than mildly undemocratic already.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Nov 4, 2022
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  10. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    I've got terrible news.

    In 2020 the Presidential ballot was nearly an even split in Wisconsin. Yet one party is going to come out with total control of state government with veto proof majorities? The coup has already happened.
     
    Justin_Rice, Nov 4, 2022
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  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Doesn't that speak to, possibly, how singularly awful the (R) candidate for President was perceived in Wisconsin in 2020?
     
    doctorquant, Nov 4, 2022
    #47039
  12. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Justin_Rice, Nov 4, 2022
    #47040
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