Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

We were at just over 300,000 deaths in the US when the vaccines were rolled out. Magic bullet or no magic bullet, I'm guessing most people were expecting a hell of a lot fewer than 700,000 additional deaths over the next two years.

Saying "odds are" you'd die from COVID pre-vaccine is crazy. Even the elderly weren't dying at a 50% rate upon becoming infected. Although perhaps it seemed that way in the beginning.

 

That's 300,000 for over 380 million people. Ever hear of the Black Plague or the Spanish Flu? It could've been well over 300,000 per year.

Pre-vaccine, that was 300,000 with quarantines, shutdowns, social distancing, masking, no indoor activities. But for the vaccine, the numbers would have exploded, unless you wanted to keep all those things in place for another 5 years. You can't just hold one constant, pre-vaccine/post-vaccine, and look at numbers and make a meaningful scientific comparison.

 

The quarantines and shutdowns ended in April in some places, by June most other places.

I promise you won't lose your cool card if you say, "Yeah, the vaccines haven't been as effective as I had hoped."

 

And 100 percent of the country has received the vaccine and that is why we can spike the football that the VaCcInE iS tOtAlLy NoT eFfEcTiVe.

The vaccine is probably why I have Covid but no one else in my house has it. The booster is probably why my fatass has an annoying cold and I’m not in the hospital.

Oh and mutations. And other vaccines wane (ever get a tetanus booster?)

 

1) The vaccinated probably represent more than 60% of recent deaths for reasons others have enumerated.
2) This is from early this year, but it suggests the COVID vaccine is hardly a failure.
Boosted Americans 97 Times Less Likely to Die of COVID-19

3) This is from October of this year. It suggests the COVID vaccine is hardly a failure.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/11/ris...-and-treated-white-house-covid-czar-says.html

4) If people are absolutely bound and determined to avoid the shots because vaccination would give them something in common with libruhls, they really don't have much room to complain if they find themselves in the hospital or worse.

 

In order for the vaccines and boosters to work, you have to take them.

See How Vaccinations Are Going in Your County and State

 

I think it’s more that COVID has been a much harder target for the vaccines to hit than anything else.

It’s simply an elusive virus that has maintained its pandemic potential through every mutation.

People forget just how effective the vaccines were against the original strain. But Delta and Omicron changed everything.

And as long as so few people get boosted, I don’t see anything changing. It was politicized from the get-go and lines have only hardened since.

 

I think people forget the effectiveness of the vaccine against the original strain because the vaccine rollouts were so spread out among various groups that the period of "everyone can get jabbed" was so short before Delta came along, and then Omicron. We never got to see a full year of massive vaccinations against the original strain.

I couldn't get my first jab until April 2021. Delta was already here and was making serious inroads by the time I had my second jab in May. I got boosted that November to fight a strain that didn't even exist by then.

 

All true. But cases and deaths were at their lowest point of the entire pandemic soon after the original vaccine was introduced, and stayed there until Delta became predominant.

And all that happened with a vaccination rate not even close to what it is now.

 

Here’s the arrogance that bothers me, you appear to start from the point that:

A vaccine is supposed to be 100%
If not it’s a failure
We should be able to have come up with one that’s 100%
Since we didn’t it’s a failure

You’re diminishing all the millions of not trillions of hours of research done to come up with what we have. Have some respect. It’s not about being “cool” to me, it’s about being thankful for being able to resume some normality in light of a devastating virus that we have never seen before in the history of mankind.

 

The rollout for the first shots was considered remarkably quick, historically speaking. Yes, the virus changed to evade detection. That is part of the frustration. Medicine is not perfect. Cancer still exists. Expecting a vaccine to be perfect and then casting it aside when imperfections arise is like benching a first round draftee quarterback for one interception.

 

Weren’t you the one who said we should just open every thing up without a vaccine because herd immunity would put an end to the pandemic? How’s that working for you?