Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Hospitalizations flatlining is a good sign. Give it a week or two after Christmas, though, and they'll start rising again. Deaths will start peaking a few weeks after that.

Could be that those who stayed unvaccinated and caught Covid last winter still have some residual immunity against omicron, which could help tone down the spread this time. It's only been a little over 10 months since we came down from the initial massive omicron peak.

How many people die of the flu on an average day? That's to me an important marker vis-a-vis Covid.

 

65-170 per day, for 2019-2020 flu season

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–2020_United_States_flu_season

 

New coronavirus subvariant, XBB, now widespread in New England

 

I wonder what excuse/argument the parents are giving for those choices? It's the height of irresponsible parenting. Personally, I think it comes down to lazy, neglectful parenting -- like, they, probably, just didn't go get it done; not that there was any actual thought or reasoning that went into such decisions.

 

This a segment of our population that, for a time, believed Jenny McCarthy was an expert on pediatric health.

 

Most religious objections are because some vaccines are made using cells from a fetus that was aborted in (IIRC) the ‘60s.

Not sure if that’s the case here or not, but opposition to vaccines is as old as vaccines themselves.

 

I have relatives in that category. Way pre-Covid they definitely delayed getting at least one of their kids vaccinated for all the usual childhood diseases based on Jenny McCarthy's BS. At one point, they asked me to help write a letter "from" their three year old to the pre-school stating her objections to being vaccinated. I thought they were joking and when I realized they weren't, I was shocked and plain angry. Eventually, the kid got her shots. Based on this, I assumed they'd be anti-vaxxers when it came to Covid, but they weren't, and have gotten vaxxed and boosted. Yay, science.

 

I don't know, I think you'd be really hard-pressed to find anybody in their 40s, 50s or 60s who wasn't vaccinated against the common childhood diseases, or any of their parents who wouldn't have gotten it done, or who regretted getting it done. They just did it, for the start of school, even if nothing else. And there wasn't any argument about it.

 

I'm old here. Not my length of time on the site, but actual age. Many younger parents haven't experienced german measles, or measles, or whooping cough (pertussis) or mumps BECAUSE of vaccines. My kids born in the 80's had measles. Kids after don't. BECAUSE there's a vaccine. I didn't get small pox, or polio, BECAUSE of vaccines. Parents today don't take vaccines seriously precisely because vaccines work (ed). They aren't seeing what the devastating effects are on a regular basis. I've talked here before my mom had polio as a youngster. Her house had quarantine tape at the front door. It was taken seriously.

 

Mandates have historically only made the opposition stronger.

 

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There are plenty of religious objections to vaccination, from Hasidim to Christian Scientists. Most aren't legitimately doctrinal.

Even the Catholic stem cell objection was waived by the Vatican. Vatican OKs Receiving COVID-19 Vaccines, Even If Research Involved Fetal Tissue

Not sure what's happening in Central Ohio with the measles, but it shouldn't be happening.