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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    So these really are kinda, sorta the same thing?
     
    Smallpotatoes, Jan 11, 2023
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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    As a matter of criminality, it's illegal to intentionally take classified documents to an unauthorized location. No matter how people politicize it, or whether either gets charged, it's not kinda, sorta the same thing. It's exactly the same thing.

    As much as people's biases will have them twisting themselves into pretzels to find the distinctions that they want to use to gloss over that small fact. ... in a court of law, "I'm a better person than Trump, and I don't have bad intentions" wouldn't be exculpatory.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 11, 2023
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  3. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    So all the differences that have been pointed out are actually distinctions without a difference?
     
    Smallpotatoes, Jan 11, 2023
    #51411
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The adverb "intentionally" is the keyword in Ragu's post. That's why it would be hard to prove Trump committed a crime (although he keeps helping) and damn near impossible to do so with Biden. I have to say, at least the National Archives noticed Trump's documents were missing. The ones Biden had don't seem to have been noticed until found by his own attorneys.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jan 11, 2023
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  5. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Get back to me when the Biden administration hands in hundreds or thousands of documents.

    The own goals piss me off sometimes. This is something that could've been avoided by getting in front of the story with a press release. "We fucked up, we're addressing it." Instead it's drip-drip-drip (enter backdoor joke here).
     
    wicked, Jan 11, 2023
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  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I'm torn between disagreeing with a poster because that poster is incorrect, and knowing what that disagreement is going to bring in response.

    So, yep, they're exactly the same. You're right. No notes.
     
    Regan MacNeil, Jan 11, 2023
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  7. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

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    Smallpotatoes, Jan 11, 2023
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  8. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    I’m fine with DOJ investigating this. I would really like people to leave classified docs where they belong, even as I realize there are varying degrees of problematic with it.
     
    dixiehack, Jan 11, 2023
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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The question is: Why were they looking? The “hey, should we go look over in the PennBiden center for 10 classified documents?” rationale seems unlikely. I know the official word is “office space.”
     
    Alma, Jan 11, 2023
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  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's an easy one. When the Trump document story broke, somebody on Biden's staff called his personal attorneys and said, "get some guys over to his outside office and check every piece of paper in it." After the usual delay and I'm sure going through a lot of congratulatory letters to Eagle Scouts, they found some documents.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Jan 11, 2023
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  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The official story is they found them while cleaning out an office. Why lawyers, and not just typical cleaning house personnel, were doing the clearing is a question.

    And, again, it doesn’t mean anything nefarious happened. It’s a question a journalist asks.
     
    Alma, Jan 11, 2023
    #51419
  12. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    Jake from State Farm, Jan 11, 2023
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