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The Economy

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, May 14, 2020.

  1. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    My girlfriend's brother has a couple hens and they lay a few times a year. Can't say I noticed any difference from store-bought ones.

    Eggs are refrigerated in stores I'm told because commercial farms wash off the outer layer. Go over to Europe and they're on the standard shelves.
     
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  2. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    Hm. Thanks for this really informative post. I had no idea. And I cannot, for the life of me, imagine a million chickens in any one building (and I tried, when I read your post!)
     
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  3. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    So you're saying, "six of one, half-dozen of the other?"
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    You're quite good at those explainers, DQ. I suppose that's because you're willing to do the research, get the data and the analytical methods, and generally know what you're talking about.
    If you ever drive down wind of a big chicken house in August you won't have to imagine.
     
  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    I should have said a single farm. Most of these farms have more than one building. But 100,000 or 200,000 in one building, yes.

    Here's a story about an avian flu outbreak last spring at an egg farm in my area. They killed 2.75 million birds and put them into a big compost pile. Check out the video. https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-new...-millions-of-chickens-after-bird-flu-outbreak

    And maybe you can link to an aerial photo of the farm. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cold+Spring+Eggs/@42.8833146,-88.6459848,644m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x8805e9c1ffb2c61f:0x94c4291ee1edf31a!8m2!3d42.8767553!4d-88.6366063!16s/g/1tgcmw9c?hl=en
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Without even knowing just how concentrated (or not concentrated) ownership was. ... it's the egg business. I know to most of us, the idea of owning , say, 20 million hens and harvesting and distributing eggs sounds daunting and unattainable. But the barriers to entry are not very great for a business like this. It falls well within the amount of capital a lot of people have readily available if they saw a chance to earn a return on their investment. It's not like the telecommunications business or the parcel deliverers, where you'd need billions of dollars of capital to just get up and running, never mind to steal market share.

    If it was possible to achieve high margins while easily undercutting the existing suppliers (because they somehow are "gouging" people), it's hard to believe that a lot of money wouldn't find its way there in a hurry.
     
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  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  8. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Pro tip: If your hens stop laying in the winter, give them feed with a higher protein content.

    I'm not an egg-spert, I just heard that.
     
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  9. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I once had a conversation with a youngish guy who took out a $2 million loan to build four chicken houses. He was told it would be a good second income because he'd only have to put about 4-5 hours a week into it.
    I know pretty close to zero about operating chicken houses, but I know that can't even be close to correct.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    For 99 percent of people, a $2 million investment, especially one being financed with debt, shouldn't be a second anything. It should be their primary focus.
     
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  11. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    I guess environment also matters. If the hens are in a warmer environment (well-heated building with no draft), they'll lay more.
     
  12. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    I think it's more attuned to the length of day, which can be controlled in an indoor setting.
     
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