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CJR on Trump and the Press

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Azrael, Jan 31, 2023.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

     
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  3. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    I read about half of that long-ass story and never could figure out what it was trying to accomplish.
     
  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    The fact that Glenn Greenwald figured so prominently in this set off alarm bells.
     
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  5. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    Last sentence of the second graph:

    For Trump, the press’s pursuit of the Russia story convinced him that any sort of normal relationship with the press was impossible.

    *GIF of Seinfeld throwing his hands in the air & exiting the play*
     
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    There's a real forest / trees problem with the Gerth piece.

    He also takes Trump both literally and seriously. If you're not treating Trump as a singularity - a pathological liar, con man and chaos agent - you're not doing journalism.

    So: exhausting rather than exhaustive.

    For example, where's McGonigal? Did the FBI’s Charles McGonigal Help Throw the 2016 Election to Trump?

    And like Taibbi at Twitter - and Bari Weiss at all times, and Greenwald, and Williams, et al. - it's an incredibly deceptive piece of work. It ignores 95% of the available evidence in order to be technically correct about the 5% it includes.

    The whole thing is terrifically problematic.
     
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  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I liked the part where Basquet defended the NYT's coverage, saying "the prizes prove it."
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    For the record, Baquet.

    Who - like every Times executive editor in history - overvalues awards.

    It's not as if the Pulitzer folks go back and re-report every story.

    It'll be interesting to see what life is like under Joe Kahn.
     
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  9. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Gerth is a prominent figure in James B. Stewart's 1996 tome "Blood Sport: the President and His Adversaries." Baquet is in it too.
     
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The Times is a flat circle jerk

     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Taibbi has transited the Tropic of This Fucking Guy.
     
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