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Running 2022-23 NHL thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by HanSenSE, Oct 7, 2022.

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  1. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    What constitutes the NHL's Modern Era? The 1967 expansion? The NHL-WHA merger?

    I realize I'm very much biased but there's a guy who played for the Red Wings whose career started two years before Bobby Orr was born and played two more years as a professional after Orr retired, which would put him squarely in any discussion that includes Orr. I seem to recall he was pretty decent for a farmboy out of Floral, Sask.

    Orr redefined the position of defenseman and had a wonderful photo taken of his famous goal. But Gordie Howe played against Rocket Richard and Wayne Gretzky, and everybody in between including his two sons, and he scored more points during that time than anybody had ever seen.

    He was Ruth before Aaron. Abdul-Jabbar before Jordan. Richard Petty before Dale Earnhardt.

    Both Gretzky and Orr considered Howe the greatest player they ever saw. I'll take their word for it.
     
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    maumann, Feb 7, 2023
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  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    They all sounded like old-school hockey guys twisting themselves into rhetorical pretzels just because they didn't like Lemieux, who definitely annoyed some old-school hockey guys. I think many of them liked him better because he was a fighter and Lemieux was not.

    Many arguments about Orr focus on what might have been had he played longer, but Lemieux has a better argument in that regard given the limits that injuries and cancer put on his career.

    To be clear, I'm not disputing Orr's place among the greatest of all time, really among the top five of all time, just the claim by some that he belongs ahead of Lemieux.

    By all means, make the argument if you can.
     
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    outofplace, Feb 7, 2023
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  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

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    I fought off sleep from about halfway through the second period last night into overtime, to watch this game. I don't know about "best game of the season," but it was a super entertaining game. Back and forth, some serious hitting (Trouba leveled Nazim Kadri), the obligatory "how dare you hit like that" fights, and some good momentum shifts. Some of the play was really sloppy, but it had the feel of one of those later season playoff push games. Filip Chytil is really starting to blossom. He's been in the league for so long that it's easy to forget that he is only 23. And the game ended with the good guys winning, a la an OT goal by Lafreniere, who has had a really tough season, but looks way more confident with that "kid" line with him and Kakko and Chytil.

    I know Calgary has been a little bit of a disappointment, but they were frustrating. They were mostly outplayed, but they never go away. They actually were inexplicably leading 4-3 more than half way through the third period.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 7, 2023
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  4. misterbc

    misterbc Well-Known Member

    Flames-Rangers was one of the best regular season games I’ve seen in the last couple of years. Calgary would be a SC contender except for 3 weaknesses: poor face off performance, they don’t pick the top corners, their 3 on 3, and especially shootout, extra time play is not good at all. Missing Gaudreau on the 3 on 3.
     
    misterbc, Feb 7, 2023
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  5. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    I was a fan before but I fell in love with hockey when the Red Wings had Howe, Alex Delvecchio and Frank Mahovlich as the top line
    Howe was 40
    44-59-103
    And Mahovlich was so much fun
    I have one move
    Try and stop it
    Few did
    And Alex was one of the most under appreciated great players toiling in the shadow of Howe and Lindsay
     
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    Jake from State Farm, Feb 7, 2023
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  6. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    The NHL considers its modern era to have begun in 1943-44.
     
    Huggy, Feb 7, 2023
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    During the pregame in NY, Steve Valliquete was saying how they shoot too much. And for a goalie it makes them too predictable. Like there is no unpredictable puck movement, they just get it and shoot. ... over and over again. He (and Henrik Lundqvist agreed) said that he loved that as a goalie, it's like they are getting warmed up.

    I have no idea if that is true. I never see Calgary. In general last night, they seemed to be a typical extension of Darryl Sutter kind of team, same as I remembered them last season. ... except without Gaudreau and Matthew Tkachuk, which I guess are no small things.

    If anything, last season in the games against the Rangers, Calgary was as tough as anything in the neutral zone. The Rangers couldn't get anything going. Last night wasn't anything like that, and that was a huge difference. I would have thought if anything MacKenzie Weegar would just make them even more like that, but not last night at least.
     
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    The Big Ragu, Feb 7, 2023
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  8. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Here's some more on that home team no-show over the weekend, or, another minor league team may be biting the dust.
     
    HanSenSE, Feb 9, 2023
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    They do a little rundown segment in between periods on local Rangers broadcasts, and they included that home-team no show last night during the Rangers-Canucks game.

    They also had this from the German hockey league:

     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 9, 2023
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  10. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    Not up on my German and didn’t see the Rangers broadcast but I’m assuming the goalie turned away because the play was called offside.
     
    Sea Bass, Feb 9, 2023
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  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    On the broadcast they said it was a goal. It's interesting, because after you said that I watched closely and yeah, I see the blue jersey along the boards in the offensive zone. I can see a delayed offside. Here I would guess that would negate the goal. Is that the case, here and in Germany?

    EDIT: I just found something on a Reddit thread about it in which someone was saying that the league clarified later that it should have been offside, but the refs didn't catch it when it happened. I guess they have no replay.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 9, 2023
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't want to condone the assault. ... But this may be the funniest thing I have ever seen.

     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 9, 2023
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