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That is the most significant problem, that not every child will get that opportunity. Some will be left behind, and because vouchers are siphoning money away from public education, those low-performing schools will be even worse.

 

Some of those advanced degrees do have value, such as special education and administration. Schools need strong pools of educators in both of those areas, especially special ed.

The idea is to reward teachers who work to get better at their jobs. The goal of these decisions isn't to eliminate unnecessary degrees. It is to siphon money away from public education.

 

The same thing will happen Arkansas what happened in Oklahoma — a mass exodus of teachers out of state, mostly to Texas, where vouchers have never gotten off the ground (yet). The Oklahoma deal was strictly about salaries, but Arkansas doesn't pay great either.

 

That is what should happen with all of those schools. If they want to build superteams, make them compete in the highest classification.

 

Careful using the word "most", Icarus. Bring your sites and stats here. Not saying you're wrong, just wrong in my state.

 

F*ck off

 

I wonder if there is some "camp" where these accidental Republican heroes go to so they can be caught up on all the conspiracies and "bogeymen" they need to gain immediate fluency in.

 

I don’t get the Icarus reference. That is the experience in the NY and NJ are which I am familiar with.

 

Which is precisely the aim

 

I’m good with rewarding teachers who add value to their jobs and get better at them.

I don’t find an absolute correlation between taking online classes or classes in some downtown satellite of a Purdue or Phoenix University, and getting better at the job. Why pay a university money to get a scheduled raise? I have my ideas about how and why those arrangements started, which falls in line with public schools getting free labor from university student teachers in the name of “training you pay for.”

 

Camp Murdochalago

 

I’d argue for reforms before we just axe pay raises tied to advanced degrees like so many states have done. I’m fine with tightening what constitutes a qualifying degree. I know a few teachers whose master’s degrees were a perfunctory hurdle to a pay raise. I also have a friend who has ended up as a superintendent and a sister-in-law whose special education degree completely changed her career path. There has to be a way to separate out those two types of cases without ignoring advanced degrees from pay raises.