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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    The last tweet in that thread is the best one.
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Most - all? - of those links feature stories written a year after COVID began.

    And yesterday, of course, you have a LA Times columnist suggesting there’s “not a speck” of evidence. Not sure what qualifies that guy to make that assessment, but some secret “Z division” of the government thinks it’s more likely than not.
     
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  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    That's the point.

    The 'lab leak' theory was reported on from the very beginning. And got exactly as far as that Z division investigation got: maybe / maybe not.

    wuhan leak - Google Search

    There isn't any new evidence. There's new analysis of existing evidence. Of which very little can be confirmed or trusted, as you yourself point out. Supersecret Chinese government lab practices made sure of it.

    So, low-confidence Z division "investigation" gets us to what, 50/50?

    Not much news there, and certainly no different than all the pieces I posted about the lab leak theory from 2 years earlier.

    The squawking on the MAGA right, and the overheated rhetoric about this "story" being blackballed from social media, was that the Wuhan lab leak was deliberate.

    For which there is no evidence at all.
     
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  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    meanwhile,

     
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    He may as well have ordered an official review of the meaning of life, for all that would concretely come out of it.
     
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Exactly.

    Absent a whistleblower inside the Wuhan lab with accompanying documentary evidence, we're unlikely to advance this story in the way Nate Silver suggests.
     
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  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    One part of coverups is neutralizing pesky witnesses. Any evidence that 2019 employees of the Wuhan lab have taken early retirement in the form of disappearing, or been transferred to research in the Uighur region, or like that would be suggestive, but if any such exists, US intelligence is keeping it to itself.
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Unfortunately, though, there was a group of people who quickly shouted down any suggestions that it could have been man made via serial passaging (which is entirely possible and for which there is as much evidence that may have been the case as there is any evidence that it was a zoonotic leap), and they were sort of the yang to the yin of the Trump idiocy that wanted to state unequivocably that it was the CHHHHHHINA virus and had been unleashed intentionally on the world

    You are correct. There was always a question about the origins, but it was highly suspicious from the get go that the only level 4 virology lab in China, that was doing stuff with coronaviruses, was right near the original breakout, and of course it was then compounded by China not being transparent and honest about anything, let alone that lab and what may or may not have been going on in it. I found it unfortunate from the outset that a lot of people (including some overly defensive virologists) were trying to shout down any QUESTION about the virus' origins. We may not have known either way, but rather than just trying to objectively figure out what happened, you had moron after moron with whacked agendas creating narratives rather than sticking to the empirical.

    We still don't know for certain what the origin of the virus was, but really the only reason people should have cared was that if it was a lab leak, you have to presume it was an ACCIDENTAL lab leak (which is why the Trump misinformation was particularly dangerous, probably), and we should all be invested in trying to prevent that sort of thing from ever happening again. Which is why it would be nice to know. In terms of pointing a finger? Who gives a fuck? The virus exists, it has spread and the whole world has had to deal with it (whether it liked it or not).
     
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  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    The people who are super heavily invested in this story want to use it as a crowbar. “See, we were right about voter fraud and people aborting babies a year after they were born, and third graders identifying as cats and shitting in a litter box at school, and women shouldn’t work outside the home, and deport all the Mexicans” and all the other foul swill that is bubbling inside their smooth, underdeveloped brains. They think it is the Rosetta Stone that will finally make the rest of us understand and bow before their imaginary kingdom of the damned.
     
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  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    They won't change their mind about anything, no matter how many facts are shown to them.....but they expect others to do the same. Very on brand.
     
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