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RIP Kobe Bryant

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Driftwood, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    I've dealt with a LOT in the past five-plus years, so you're good. No disturbing me, but I appreciate it.

    Correct on what the investigators have to do. Do NOT want their jobs. Much appreciation for what they did, not just for my family but what they do overall. For my family, wreckage was found 750 yards from the crash site. So a massive field to navigate.

    And concur. Lessons learned. To say there should be no accountability just because the Bryants have means is out-of-bounds ridiculous.
     
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  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    So did the perps from the LA sheriff's department suffer any consequences?
    Because the citizens of LA county did.
     
  3. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    MileHigh said it eloquently but I’ll add this

    The civil court system has two ways to collect damages: compensatory and punitive. The first makes you whole based on what you lost. The second is punishment. The payout was anticipating the punitive damages the Bryant family was likely going to win and saving the county the hassle of a trial.

    EDIT: Another trial. Part of the settlement is what they were forced to pay from the federal suit.

    Regardless of the Bryants means, do you think LA County—or any country in the US—is going to allow anything like this to happen again? The first responders fucked up and the Bryants had the means to make them pay for it and make it so painful, they will likely never do it again for anyone. And that’s the point. You don’t go into lawsuit because you are trying to get rich unless you’re committing fraud.
     
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  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Looks like at least the firefighters lost their jobs (probably). I can’t find what happened to the deputies. In any other job, if you cost your employer millions of dollars, you’re out of that job. The deputies were probably promoted because we do things ass backwards when it comes to law enforcement.

    Firefighters to be fired in Kobe Bryant helicopter crash scene photo scandal, court docs say
     
  5. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Yeah, "planned to fire" the firefighters is a long way from firefighters actually losing their job. Unions are powerful.

    So as far as we know, subject to us finding anything else, no perps have suffered anything, but the citizens of LA County have.

    The Los Angeles County Fire Department planned to terminate the employment of two firefighters and suspend a third for allegedly taking graphic photos at the scene of the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant and sharing them with their wives and girlfriends, according to court documents filed this week.
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Of course the appropriate punishment would be massive fines against the individual perpetrators, termination from their jobs, along with public identification and wide distribution of their actions.
     
  7. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    LOL, at least one firefighter 'retired'. I'm betting with some sort of disability payment because of all the stress he endured.
    Retired Firefighter Testifies in Vanessa Bryant Lawsuit Over Crash Site Photos – NBC Los Angeles

    Holy crap, I didn't read far enough down...

    Before he could be terminated from his job, Jordan retired early in 2021, citing his mental health, court papers show. Steven Haney, Jordan's attorney, wrote in a filing that his client was “simply obeying orders'' when he snapped the photos at the scene of the Jan. 26, 2020, crash.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I think that Vanessa and the financial advisor are ghouls.
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Undoubtedly the first responders were indeed directed by their superiors and departmental procedures to photograph the scene, including disturbing details. That is routine, regardless of the identity of the victims.
    What happened to those images after they were taken is the problem.
     
  10. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

  11. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    You have to sue the pilot to get to the operator.

    I thought the settlement today was over the photos.

    Btw the issue isn’t taking them, it’s that those first responders are entrusted with access to such information and are entrusted to do the right thing with them not share with your squeeze.
     
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  12. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    So what was the fucking point? They ran shuttles to and from Catalina.


    Thanks, Cap'n Obvious.

    I guarantee you first responders around here still share pictures of these gruesome scenes. But because of Ms. Bryant's brave lawsuits, I am sure they are now more discreet.
     
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