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Running racism in America thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Scout, May 26, 2020.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Sure.
     
  2. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Suspended for a week.
     
  3. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Kimes with the awesome takedown of culture warrior Whitlock.

     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    You could see that coming a million miles away.
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

  6. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    So Curtis was referring to Kaufmnn?
     
  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Mina Kimes didn't ask for this shit. ... some radio idiot says her name, and all of a sudden she's getting the stupid Whitlock treatment. That was pretty well handled.

    I also love the fact that she changed her Twitter photo to a picture of Mila Kunis.

    She's got a good sense of humor.
     
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  8. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Have you seen what Southern states are doing with teaching the racial history of this country?
    There are spots where the government is actively engaging in racist thinking ie what can and cannot be taught in school. There are spots where it's passive. Institutions that were established to keep certain people out or marginalize others predate any who are in power but people in power don't change those systems (or legitimate reasons or otherwise). There are also ways the government is actively combating certain practices (ie fair housing and what used to be the voting rights act).

    As for individuals, to say everyone is a little racist is an un-nuanced way of saying we all have certain biases for or against certain groups based on a multitude of factors. Plus there's what we know and what we don't know. What we don't know can lead to an unintentional racist moment. What we do after is what matters and determines if we are, ourselves, racist.

    For example, making a racist comment and trying to defend said racist comment by saying you were in fact making a sexist comment. Or defending the person who made a racist comment and trying to excuse it
     
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  9. mpcincal

    mpcincal Well-Known Member

    Like Mila Kunis and her character on "That '70s Show," Mina Kimes know the concept of a great "BUUUURN!"
     
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  10. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    We had a three-hour training on Managing Bias yesterday in good old Greenwich, CT, and more than one person exhibited this very tenet. I'm not the most sensitive person in the world when it comes to things like this (as has been pointed out on this board), but damn if people in this training session couldn't grasp how asking where people's ancestors are from is not something people tend to take well. It's all about couching things properly and without driving at something. What Curtis said was obviously racist and intentional.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't buy into Ron DeSantis's "woke indoctrination" bullshit, which to some extent is a dog whistle to certain racist individuals.

    But guess what. ... state & local governments control what gets taught in schools. Always have. And the law that Florida passed -- when you get past the name that was intentionally designed to trigger people and stir shit -- is pretty careful in what it does and doesn't do. It bars instruction that says one race is "inherently" racist, and that they should feel guilt for past actions commited by people of the same race as them or that a person's status as "privileged" or "oppressed" is determined by their race. It bars teaching the notion that meritocracy is racist or that discrimination is OK in order to achieve "diversity."

    Racism by definition is discrimination against a person on the basis of their race. Such as, "You are black. You can't drink from this fountain." The law in Florida is stupid, and I'd personally prefer our schools be open to everything and anything and hope that kids can learn to think critically for themselves. But it's actually not a good example of govenmental racism (which would not get very far in 2023).

    That law is pushback from an opposite movement that has been just as harmful to people's attitudes about race in this country and actually comes closer to the actual definition of racism, because it aims to separate people by race (kids being told one is "privileged" because of their race; the other is "oppressed" because of his or her race).
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2023
  12. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    https://awfulannouncing.com/radio/w...ogizes-racial-joke-mina-kimes-mila-kunis.html

    “In a pathetic failed attempt at a one-liner, I attempted to bring up Mila Kunis, which was not really that funny – sophomoric and sexist,” Curtis began. “But for reasons I don’t understand, I said Mina Kimes. That was never the intention for me to say her name. It had nothing to do with the subject matter and it dragged her into a controversy through no fault of her own regarding a slur and her race and is not at all what my intention was, but it doesn’t matter because of the absolute chaos that my words created for someone who’s just doing her job covering the NFL at ESPN.

    “So, I want to apologize to Mina Kimes, I want to apologize for the stupid, lame attempt at a joke, it was something that just, there’s really no other way to put it, it was dumb and it was silly. And it’s brought a lot of things to the forefront for people that did nothing wrong and it’s all because I had a clumsy attempt to try and bring humor to a story in Boston.”​
     
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