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I feel like in stories like this, the media either overplays the significance of an ME determination that a death is a homicide or fails to adequately explain it. Often they do both. The result is that its given more significance than it deserves.

This was obviously a homicide from the minute it happened. It's on video. Witnesses reported it to the police in real-time. A finding from a medical examiner that it was not homicide would be truly bizarre unless he happened to be having an unrelated overdose while being put in the chokehold. Even a heart attack induced by the chokehold - as opposed to blocking of airways - would be a homicide.

Homicide covers all killings of one person by another. Not all homicides are crimes. A justified shooting by a police officer is a non-criminal homicide. A soldier killing an enemy combatent within the rules of engagement is a non-criminal homicide. A killing in self-defense or defense of others is a homicide.

This case is and was from the get go about whether this homicide is criminal, not whether it was a homicide.

 

Of course.

I'm just pointing out that the cops' investigation was very slow to start - and incomplete - because they were late to the scene.

Which accounts in part for the protests.

 

Right, but that second sentence gets left out of a lot of the coverage resulting in people who are less familiar with the system giving it more significance than it deserves.

Also, the NYPD should not have needed to wait for that determination to investigate (if they dd delay) since it was obvious from the jump.

 

Thread specific to this Jordan Neely killing/Daniel Penny charges

 

There’s a tendency for some people to cherry-pick the reports and latch on to whatever will score them points. Look at there are people who insist George Floyd OD’d on fentanyl and Derek Chauvin putting his knee on his neck had nothing to do with it, even though the report said it was a homocide.

 

Voiceover:

"Donald Trump says he's a tough guy. He says the 2020 election was rigged against him while he was president. He also says the man who rigged it, Joe Biden, is weak. How can all those things be true?"

 

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They arrived late enough to the scene that many of the eyewitnesses were already gone.