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Jordan Neely killing/Daniel Penny charges

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, May 13, 2023.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Witness to Jordan Neely chokehold death calls Daniel Penny a 'hero'

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/witness-to-jordan-neely-chokehold-death-calls-daniel-penny-a-hero/

    The prosecution's case will be that he held him in a chokehold for too long.

    Then a parade of witnesses to it are going to testify that they were threatened and scared and that Penny was a hero who stepped up to protect them.

    If the rest of the witnesses sound like this woman-- sounds like an elderly black woman -- he's in as good shape as possible given the circumstances he's facing.
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2023
    The Big Ragu, May 20, 2023
    #133
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The Big Ragu, May 20, 2023
    #134
  3. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    I wonder if the NYPost gave Penny a few stacks of cash so it could get that scoop access.
     
    Slacker, May 20, 2023
    #135
  4. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    I won’t pre-judge. But choosing the NY Shitty Post to tell his side feeds the political divide on this story. There were credible outlets available.
     
    Deskgrunt50, May 20, 2023
    #136
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  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    His lawyers objectives aren't yours. He needs to talk to an audience of actual New Yorkers. The kinds of people who read tabloids and might possibly be sitting on a jury. If it was 15 years ago, they might have had him talk to the Daily News, but today the Daily News has a fraction of the circulation of the NY Post.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 20, 2023
    #137
  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Potential jury members should definitely read that Post story and disqualify themselves.
     
    Regan MacNeil, May 21, 2023
    #138
  7. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    If that’s a strategy, I’d argue it’s an ineffective to bad one because of the NYP’s utter lack of credibility. It long ago stopped being aimed at actual New Yorkers. Like Fox Angertainment, it gives its audience the stories that reinforces their already-formed views. The Rupert Special.

    The NYP is aimed and hard-right, alt-right fuckwits. Any of its readers in the New York jury pool have already acquitted Mr. Penny. Anyone else has to raise an eyebrow as to why that venue was selected. And there were plenty of other ways to speak out other than through the Post or the decimated Daily News.

    I mean, his interview comes the day after the NYP went full-throttle on a completely FALSE story about homeless vets getting kicked out of hotels in favor of bussed-in migrants. Put it on the cover for fuck’s sake. It doesn’t just lack credibility, it’s dangerously corrupt.

    I’d question the intelligence of a lawyer who thinks using the NY Shitty Post to send a clean message to the potential jury pool is somehow a good idea.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2023
    Deskgrunt50, May 21, 2023
    #139
  8. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Look how long that story ran. And all the wholesome background claims they worked into it. Tons of scripted quotes to plant now and and grow in the public eye. And for Penny to practice over and over for trial.

    I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, or why he didn't show some restraint. But you can see the game plan right there.
     
    Slacker, May 21, 2023
    #140
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Your sensibilities are off on this. The typical person who looks at the NY Post -- to the extent they are actually still selling newspapers, something it's the only of the tabloids left still doing at all -- has no clue who it is aimed at, who publishes it, whether it is biased, etc. They aren't analyzing the days' stories and how the Post ran them. They aren't very engaged the way you are. And they aren't thinking about politics the way you are. They don't think of themselves as whatever politically-laced-invective or perjorative you think of them as. They're not living in your world, just as you are not living in theirs. And there are WAY MORE of those people in the 5 boroughs than there are people like you.

    The circulation isn't what it once was. People used to pick up a tabloid to read on the subway, to get some Yankees or Mets news and a few tabloid articles. But it's the closest publication there is still to being able to reach a decent number of actual working-class New Yorkers, which is where the court of public opinion is in session on this. It's website gets a ton more traffic than the Daily News. Of course you question his lawyers' intelligence, because you look at the world through a straw. You won't accept this, but he's probably being served way better by them than by whatever advice you would ever have for him (which has zero to do with his well being, and more about what is important to you), if his objective is to manage the court of public opinion as this thing heads toward a high-profile trial.
     
    Last edited: May 21, 2023
    The Big Ragu, May 21, 2023
    #141
  10. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    Right back at ya, slick.

    New York media consumers are smarter than you give them credit for. And what the hell do you mean “I don’t live in their world and they don’t live in mine?”

    All I’m saying is there were dozens of other ways to get his message out other than attaching the stink of the NYP.
     
    Deskgrunt50, May 21, 2023
    #142
  11. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I’d like to hear from Az on this since I guess only New Yorkers can comment on the NY media market. And I’d like to hear from someone who isn’t the dictionary definition of a mansplainer.
     
    Regan MacNeil, May 21, 2023
    #143
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  12. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    New York has the only good pizza, too.
     
    Slacker, May 21, 2023
    #144
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