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THIS IS CNN: Don Lemon goes berserker on Kaitlan Collins

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, Feb 5, 2023.

  1. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I am going to post about non-specific people.

    Attempting to mind-read doesn't work.

    Attempting to speak for almost everyone else doesn't work.

    Stick to one's own opinions and don't try to apply them to millions upon millions.

    These seem obvious, yet, these things seem to happen here often. Again, from non-specific people.
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    An interview that doesn’t turn into “and you lied about this and this and this and this” won’t please a large majority of the left, because unless the words are said, there’s a confidence that all the dumb people out there wont get it.

    Except they get it. In fact, many enjoy that he lies, because they think everyone lies, so they may as well have their own personal liar. I’m not endorsing this view; nobody lies like Trump. But he’s their devil. What’s the line in Wolf of Wall Street? If you have a boat like a Bond villain, sometimes you gotta act the part. There’s a kind of fulfillment going on that’s sad and destructive and dangerous. Cult-like, and hard to reverse.

    A lot of media members despair as a result, police their own more rigorously so as to make clear what’s acceptable.In a sense the CNN Townhall reveals “yes, still, he’s like this - and so are his fans.” The underlying scandal is…CNN (or Maggie Haberman) can’t just show that and be in The Atlantic or David Simon’s esteem. It has to include disclaimers and denunciations.

    Alberta’s story - which is indeed well-reported - isn’t really about CNN. It’s about The Atlantic’s role as judge. Chris Licht sinned. Will he atone?
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The piece didn't say anything remotely close to that.
     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    If CNN is trying to play it straight, to be an "objective" news source, then what the left says about its interview with Donald Trump doesn't matter. Nor should it matter what the right says.

    If you're going to do journalism, do journalism.
     
  5. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    I thought the same during the 2016 primary debates. Wonder how Jim Lehrer would have handled it?
     
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  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Who decides what journalism is? Outlets like The Atlantic do. The left does.
     
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  7. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    Whoever is friends with Nicolle Wallace does 'real' journalism.

    Like being friends with that SJ.com poster who knew every beat writer from here to the Sudan.
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    That entire piece is about Chris Licht - and Zaslav and Malone and CNN - trying to decide what journalism is.
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Totally understand what you mean but I think the piece is about Weak or Bad (or both) Men doing Bad Journalism and a Bad Thing with the Trump townhall, and The Atlantic giving cover to “CNN staffers” so they can share their misgivings and intrigue in an effort to make sure that set an event never happens again on CNN.

    The headline is “The Meltdown at CNN.”

    The CJR piece a few months ago that was about wrestling with journalism in the Trump era. Twitter and most journalists roundly denounced it with “eff that guy” fervor.
     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Considering where the network was with Zucker - is there anything to meltdown? More like "Failure to Launch." Licht's major genius was encouraging Colbert to go after the old Daily Show audience and not shy away from politics. The round tables at Morning Joe and CBS This Morning don't get people to watch. And really, Morning Joe is just a more palatable version of what Imus was doing on the network.
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Posters with rigid universal theories of life explain how news story fits their theories.
     
  12. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I only care if a story affects my personal liberty. Which is most of them.
     
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