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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    He'll be OK if they keep him in the house and are up to date on their filters.

    The irony here on the East Side is that our giant federal sea-level rise prevention project had to be shut down because the wildfire smoke was too hazardous for workers to breathe.

    So, climate change goin' great.
     
  2. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Have a firefighter friend in Alberta who I sent a quickie message today. He responded back fairly soon, which surprised me.

    He stays busy this time of year every year ... but this seems to be pretty scary.
     
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  3. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    Maybe in about 40 years.

    Not yet. Not yet.
     
  4. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    We were shrouded in this same smoke a couple of weeks ago. And it was really bad here in 2020 when we had a very bad wildfire season.
     
  5. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I was in Manhattan today for work and am commuting back. The color changes were wild and changed minute by minute. I walked the 1.5 miles from my office to Penn Station. Air was a little bad but not awful.
     
  6. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    I recall AQ readings in the 300-plus range out West almost annually since 2015. That seemed to be the year we began having regular “wildfire season” every August and usually September in the Inland Northwest.

    But 400-plus AQ in New York City sounds and looks really bad. Stay safe indoors everyone and hope for a change in wind conditions.
     
  7. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    This is giving me flashbacks of four years ago when we had some really bad fires in California and the sky was this orange. Hope those of you in the Northeast come out ok. Got you in my thoughts.
     
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Seems to me like people cherry-picking "facts," and putting qualifiers around them. ... to "fact check" each other.

    When a fact check doesn't factually just state something that anyone can see is empirically factual. ... but instead it references, a "report" that states something with "high confidence," and "the government's cost-benefit analysis" of it's "policy plan," and someone's "analysis," and what someone at a university of technology "has argued," my antenna automatically wonders if I am getting facts (that I can verify). ... at least in the clear-cut way that piece is trying to advance something that is maybe just a little bit ambiguous.

    Atkinson did the same exact thing. ... but notice that instead of a lot of word salad to massage their "fact check". ... when they talk about what he wrote, they go right for absolute characterizations like, "repeatedly debunked talking points" and "thoroughly debunked."
     
  10. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Belmont Stakes is Saturday. Will the air be safe enough to hold it?
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    There is a difference. There is a great deal of what Donald Trump has said that is flat-out false. He lies, so you are often addressing something that is binary: Either it's true or it is false (which it is, very often, when he says it).

    The environmental impact of electric vehicles is not a binary thing. The cars themselves are not without environmental impact at all, and depending on the specific car, how it is charged, how it is manufactured, how the electricity powering it was produced, etc., the impact varies. What then happens, is people who want to advocate for or against electric vehicles cherry pick things to try to put the imprimatur of "science" on what they are advocating for.
     
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