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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    What are you talking about?
     
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  2. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    And just wait until a few of those solar or wind farms encroach on the habitat of an endangered species. Or a wetland. Or a neighborhood. The environmentalists and other activist groups will sue and stop it in its tracks.

    The same state that has been spent billions of dollars and 20 years working on a high speed rail system without a single mile of track to show for it, has put itself on the clock to complete another massive and even more essential infrastructure project in even less time.
    I'd say grab the popcorn and enjoy the disaster, but these short-sighted idiots are dragging the rest of the country into their boondoggle.
     
  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    We don’t need to cover wild spaces with solar, it should be on every building in every city.
     
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    "Anyone is free to read Klein’s column. "


    That means turning huge areas of land over to solar farms, wind turbines and geothermal systems. It means building the transmission lines to move that energy from where it’s made to where it’s needed. It means dotting the landscape with enough electric vehicle charging stations to make the state’s proposed ban on cars with internal combustion engines possible.


    Seems to me the California "landscape" is already pretty well dotted with refueling stations.

    So much so, in fact, and for so long, that they've become invisible. At least to Ezra Klein.


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  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Maybe!
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    They have to be built en masse, though and, at least initially, the charging stations will also involve big travel plazas, because charging takes time - and electric cars don't go very far without needing a charge.

    And creating the capacity for that much energy is astonishing. All so we can get carbon free in 20 years. Because if we don't, the world's going to end. Or something.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    According to the US Geologic Survey, more than 5% of the US landmass is already a parking lot.

    https://stormwater.wef.org/2019/06/...rking-lot-coverage-for-all-3109-u-s-counties/

    In all, the model estimates that about 5.5% of all U.S. land was covered by parking lots in 2012, a figure that is growing with each decade.

    So do this:

    https://www.popsci.com/environment/solar-panels-parking-lots-electric-vehicles/

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  8. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    You live in the poorest state in the nation that claims having the capital city lose a reliable water supply is the natural consequence of Blacks being in charge, but do go on about how bad California is.
     
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  9. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Next time a civilization begins, they need to be warned that however they decide to set things up, not to make it so fragile that a temperature change of 1.8F over 150 years basically wrecks everything they set up.
     
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  10. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    We need to wait? It’s been happening for the last two decades. The desert is the ideal spot but they run into tortoises and rare squirrels. It’s derailed several projects. But the biggest issue has been capacity. We can build all the panels we want and we have the space and patience for them, but our grid could only handle so much at one time. That’s what slowed down solar. Plus we have been building up solar capacity in the state over the last 10 years. Drive from Bakersfield to Barstow and you can’t miss it. Go to any school parking lot and it’s covered in solar. Houses all over have been adding solar. Much of the haranguing is over. It’s just a matter of cost now.
     
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  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Tell me you don’t travel by interstate without telling me you don’t travel by interstate - because big travel plazas already exist.

    There are massive ones that contain movie theaters, hotels, casinos, barber shops and even dental clinics for truckers. I’m talking 50-plus football fields-worth of parking and 100,000 square-feet of buildings. And that’s to say nothing of the smaller 120-pump Bucc-ee’s.
     
  12. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    You'll forgive me if I don't take economic or environmental advice from someone who lives in (checks notes) Mississippi, I think?

    Corrected because it's even worse than I thought, according to Dixie.
     
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