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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

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  1. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Hmm. Well my whole premise is the science of getting off of fossil fuels has been suppressed by people who want to deny their impact, so I’m going with that.
     
    Spartan Squad, Jun 21, 2023
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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Gotcha.

    I'd love to be able to spin straw into gold. The fact that I can't isn't a giant conspiracy.

    But this is the level of discourse for people now. When they want to believe something. ... a boogie man is to blame. It's a conspiracy.

    Nobody has suppressed the level of knowledge we have about biomass, geothermal resources, sunlight, water, wind or any natural resources and their ability to be converted into energy. Nobody has suppressed our level of knowledge about fusion energy or other more esoteric areas, or kept them from being able to produce energy without there being a net cost.

    The resources that have gone into researching all kinds of energy alternatives over the last several decades adds up to trillions upon trillions of dollars. And none of those things can reliably produce energy in enough abundance to feed the world's needs today, let alone more cheaply than the current sources that are actually meeting those needs.

    That's just reality.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jun 21, 2023
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  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Do you know what one of the big inspirations was for the interstate highway system?
    People saying we're backwards now have no real concept of how backwards-ass a country with third world infrastructure we were 100 years ago.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Motor_Transport_Corps_convoy
     
    Batman, Jun 21, 2023
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  4. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

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    Driftwood, Jun 21, 2023
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  5. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Policy was put in place about a decade ago that was require automakers to produce engines with increased gas mileage. Most of the automakers said no problem, we can do that.
    It got shut down about six years ago because it would hurt Big Oil. Cars that got better gas mileage were bad for business.
     
    Driftwood, Jun 21, 2023
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You mean we could have put regulation / law in place that would have coerced people into behavior that they don't otherwise want to do on their own (and would never choose without being coerced), and the fact that we haven't done that is not evidence to you that societally we have collectively made a decision?
     
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    The Big Ragu, Jun 21, 2023
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  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    BTExpress, Jun 21, 2023
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  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    all good

     
    Azrael, Jun 21, 2023
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    A good program of eugenics to control the runaway population growth would probably help.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jun 21, 2023
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  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    North Korea is doing its part, and has a tiny carbon footprint to boot.

    And what thanks do they get for it??? :)
     
    BTExpress, Jun 21, 2023
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  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    I'd submit that the enlargement of SUVs and trucks to gigantic sizes was equally driven by consumer demand (bigger is safer!), the automotive industry itself and - Ragu wheelhouse alert! - monetary policy that has put a whole lot of people in vehicles they really can't afford thanks cheap money.
     
    Inky_Wretch, Jun 21, 2023
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  12. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Actually, the decision was collectively made. The government started the process. The auto industry was onboard. It would have been better for the consumer because they would have been able to get 40 mpg, and it would have been a step in the right direction. The only ones who cried foul was the billionaire oil tycoons. I'm perfectly fine with government regulations/laws that actually protect the planet and people. My first concern is not JR Ewing's bottom line.
     
    Driftwood, Jun 21, 2023
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