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Climate Change? Nahhh ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Riptide, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/07/08/earth-hottest-years-thousands-climate/

    Observations from both satellites and the Earth’s surface are indisputable — the planet has warmed rapidly over the past 44 years. As far back as 1850, data from weather stations all over the globe make clear the Earth’s average temperature has been rising.


    In recent days, as the Earth has reached its highest average temperatures in recorded history, scientists have made a bolder claim: It may well be warmer than any time in the last 125,000 years.


    Tracing climatic fluctuations back centuries and millennia is less simple and precise than checking records from satellites or thermometers. It involves poring through everything from ancient diaries to lake bed sediments to tree trunk rings.


    But the observations are enough to make paleoclimatologists, who study the Earth’s climate history, confident that the current decade of warming is exceptional relative to any period since before the last ice age, about 125,000 years ago.
     
  2. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    1850 weather station.

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  3. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So because they didn’t have computers and satellites they couldn’t get temperature, wind, rain and pressure readings? At what point do we have adequate data? Seems mighty easy to dismiss our planet is changing if you conveniently dismiss data that doesn’t suit your agenda.
     
  4. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see some Cat 4 hurricane readings from such a station.

    If you could find all the pieces strewn about.
     
  5. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So because they used an amateur weather station—still used today—in 1850 we’re can’t trust data?

    The reason we use data from 1850 to 1880 as a starting point isn’t because of the technology. We had the tech for 200 years. It was lack of global coverage with instruments. The number of data records to provide an adequate measure for comparison happened in the latter half of the 19th century. But let’s keep ragging on a random image you pulled to allow you to deny climate change.
     
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  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You take data with the huge grain of salt that any reasonable person would.

    Just like you'd probably be skeptical if some contraption in 1909 said Walter Johnson threw 105 mph. Doesn't mean he couldn't have done it. Doesn't mean you're a "denier" (one of the most overused words today). But you'd be . . . skeptical. Science used to demand "Once we have our theory, we keep trying to prove it wrong; if we can't, that's how we eventually gain certainty that it's right."

    The Problem With Using Old Weather Reports to Track Climate Change
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2023
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And please ignore data from tree rings and ice cores as well. Nature can’t be trusted.
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Can I ignore this?

     
  11. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Shhhhhh, don't tell people that folks prior to Columbus didn't actually think the earth was flat.
    The ancient Greeks knew it is round and were pretty close on the circumference because of data.
     
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  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

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