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Rewriting, Washing, Scrubbing American Culture

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Songbird, Jul 23, 2023.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    It's inherent in your opening post.

     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    To single out the Cultural Left on this thread - as you've done - without some reference on your part to the ongoing and actual censorship of the Cultural Right is rhetorical sleight-of-hand.
     
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  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    No. The entire culture is not collapsing - at least to me.

    The new cultural left is different than it used to be. Less anarchic, far more buttoned-up. Devout, sincere, religious people who 35-40 years ago would have fit snugly inside a conservative, churchy framework - these are the kinds of people somewhat easily offended, if I'm honest - have rejected a conservative, churchy framework because the conservative and churchy framework has become synonymous with mean and judgmental, and have migrated toward a left that had long been anti-establishment and free-wheeling. And those cultural newcomers have changed and will further change the left.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    No, that's you (or anyone) ascribing inherence.

    I can ascribe that you're racist after you said you love an old book that uses the word 214 times; but I don't think that's the case.

    Even the NYT wrote that the word being replaced with softer language in modern versions is a disservice.

    It was thru that basic lens that I asked if Spike's scene (or questionable pop culture as a whole) should be cleansed the same way.
     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    No, it isn't. One does not have to provide a "cultural right" disclaimer, well, in any case, but particularly not in a thread that's not about an encounter with the cultural right.

    And, at any rate, I am not a member of the old cultural right - I rolled my eyes at Tipper Gore and the fire-and-brimstone televangelists - or certainly the new cultural right, personified by Glenn Beck breaking down in tears or the embarrassing Ben Shapiro review of a Barbie movie directed by someone far smarter than he is.

    I am saying that the fallout of Trump - and the way social media amplified grievance and apocalypse - has moved the cultural left away from the middle finger to the establishment. The new left is engaged in syncretism that will rival the strains of "American Christianity" that hurt the church. (And America.)
     
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Only because I don't know what that means ...

    noun
    1. 1.
      the amalgamation or attempted amalgamation of different religions, cultures, or schools of thought.
      "interfaith dialogue can easily slip into syncretism"

    2. 2.
      LINGUISTICS
      the merging of different inflectional varieties of a word during the development of a language.
     
  7. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Nah, you did something totally different and are still whining that you can’t directly denigrate Vietnamese women without someone calling you out. Created an entire thread in dismay.
     
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  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Totes.
     
  9. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So because one person uses a phrase, that gives you a free pass to be racist? You are literally wanting to be racist and think you can’t be called a racist because of other phrases.
     
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  10. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    The argument seems to be, Why can’t I be as racist as that guy??
     
  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Totes. I used the line without thinking. It was a denigrating line in 1987 just as it is in 2023. I own that.
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Of course it is. It's the textbook definition of misdirection.

    You're in here banging the pots and pans for the LEFTIST CULTURAL REVOLUTION THAT NEVER QUITE ARRIVES, IN WHICH ALL THE OLDS AND CLUELESS BOURGEOISIE WILL BE TAKEN FROM THEIR HOMES AND SENT INTO THE COUNTRYSIDE FOR RE-EDUCATION.

    While the right is actually pulling books off the shelves; closing libraries; and heaving wrong-thinking academics off the parapets.

    What's funniest is that you're the one who introduced the phrase rhetorical sleight-of-hand to the thread.
     
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