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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Almost won what?
     
  2. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    And maybe it was because I was 27 years old and didn't give a crap about politics, but was Dukakis really an "icon" within the party? Just seemed to me like the same kind of cannon fodder that Mondale was. "Well, we gotta nominate somebody to go out and lose again, so . . . "
     
  3. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

    Neither are icons.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Dukakis won the nomination because Gary Hart blew himself up. He was a smart and decent man, but also an unbelievably provincial man. To him, the world outside of Rt. 128 was terra incognita. Voters noticed.
     
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  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    Responding to TigerVols: To me W was a much bigger disaster to this country than Trump because he had competent underlings to pursue his criminal agenda. Without W we wouldn't have had Trump.
     
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  6. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

  7. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    More on DeSantis (hee hee, see what I did there?) imploding.

    During a “reboot” that Ron DeSantis’ allies had hoped would prove his terminally online campaign could change its ways, the governor has pivoted to more of the same — and key allies and donors are threatening to jump ship.

    Various big DeSantis donors have been furious that the campaign seemed to take its cues from internet culture wars over niche issues. But despite a large-scale shedding of staff, some of the most online staffers remain on board. Indeed, some have grown more vocal: The early days of the reboot have featured a DeSantis staffer publicly feuding on social media with a Black Republican lawmaker. And despite pleas from allies to refocus away from the culture war, DeSantis has picked one fight with Bud Light and another over the teaching of Black history.

    The “out-with-the-old, back-in-with-old” nature of the reboot has some donors asking if the problem isn’t the campaign, but the candidate.

    “A top-to-bottom makeover and real accountability may be the only thing that saves Ron DeSantis [in the primary], but even then you still have the governor at the top,” a high-roller Republican donor who’s been backing DeSantis tells Rolling Stone. “And it is getting harder and harder by the day to see not just his people as the problem, but him as the problem.”

    DeSantis’ campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Officials at his super PAC, “Never Back Down,” also did not reply.

    Numerous Republicans hoping to help put DeSantis in the White House — including officials at Never Back Down, other GOP moneymen, and veteran Republican operatives — have privately vented their rage at the current direction of the campaign, according to five sources familiar with the matter. Several donors and operatives have taken their concerns directly to the governor or his senior aides in recent weeks.

    Some of that ire has been directed at DeSantis’ high-profile staff, especially Christina Pushaw, the campaign’s rapid response director and its unofficial chief of angry online feuding. It was Pushaw who recently attacked Florida Republican Rep. Byron Donalds over an extremely mild rebuke of a portion of the Floridian curriculum guidelines that, in his words, attempted “to feature the personal benefits of slavery.”​

    DeSantis’ Donors Want More Than a Reboot. They Want Him to ‘Clean House’
     
  8. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Barring unforeseen future circumstances, Dukakis is the only one who “tanked” his political career.
     
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  9. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    har dee har har
     
  10. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Dukakis won WV though
     
  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Well, there were more than 250 million people in the country then and he took second. That's worth an orange slice, anyways.
     
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