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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    You'd almost think Americans are predominantly morons....
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    So of course they spread it too.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    The old George Carlin line is as true as ever. "Think about how dumb the average person is, then understand that half of the population is dumber than that."
     
  4. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    The only good thing to come from the Trump era is the unmasking of a large swath of the population as ignorant, hateful, fearful morons. They kept to the shadows for decades, but came outta the closet in droves when they thought they had cover under the dotard.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    That's half of the story. The other half is the Republicans deciding to run active messaging to grow and feed those ignorant, hateful fears which were then boosted by Fox becoming an overt propaganda channel.
     
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  6. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Has drinking become a problem for you or people around you?

    Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office has repeatedly grilled witnesses about Rudy Giuliani’s drinking on and after election day, investigating whether Donald Trump was knowingly relying on an inebriated attorney while trying to overturn a presidential election.

    In their questioning of multiple witnesses, Smith’s team of federal investigators have asked questions about how seemingly intoxicated Giuliani was during the weeks he was giving Trump advice on how to cling to power, according to a source who’s been in the room with Smith’s team, one witness’s attorney, and a third person familiar with the matter.

    The special counsel’s team has also asked these witnesses if Trump had ever gossiped with them about Giuliani’s drinking habits, and if Trump had ever claimed Giuliani’s drinking impacted his decision making or judgment. Federal investigators have inquired about whether the then-president was warned, including after Election Night 2020, about Giuliani’s allegedly excessive drinking. They have also asked certain witnesses if Trump was told that the former New York mayor was giving him post-election legal and strategic advice while inebriated.

    Furthermore, the special counsel’s office has probed how drunk witnesses and others believed Giuliani to be during specific and consequential moments of the tumultuous Trump-Biden presidential transition. Investigators asked for details that showed precisely how these witnesses knew firsthand the attorney was drinking while counseling Trump on subverting and overturning the 2020 presidential election.

    Federal prosecutors often aren’t interested in investigating mere alcohol consumption. But according to lawyers and witnesses who’ve been in the room with special counsel investigators, Smith and his team are interested in this subject because it could help demonstrate that Trump was implementing the counsel of somebody he knew to be under the influence and perhaps not thinking clearly. If that were the case, it could add to federal prosecutors’ argument that Trump behaved with willful recklessness in his attempts nullify the 2020 election — by relying heavily on a lawyer he believed to be working while inebriated, and another who he bashed for spouting “crazy” conspiracy theories that Trump ran with anyway.

    And if federal prosecutors were to make this argument in court, it could undermine Trump and his legal team’s “advice of counsel” defense. To avoid legal consequences or even possible prison time, the ex-president is already wielding this legal defense to try to scapegoat lawyers who advised him on overturning the election — even though these attorneys were only acting on Trump’s behalf, or doing what Trump had instructed them to do. …

    Some witnesses told Smith’s team that they saw Giuliani consuming significant quantities of alcohol; some told the special counsel’s office that they could clearly smell alcohol on Giuliani’s breath, including on election night, and that they noticed distinct changes in his demeanor from hours prior, the sources tell Rolling Stone.

    Some have already told investigators that they were directly aware of moments when Trump had talked to others about Giuliani’s drinking, and that Trump spoke negatively about his then-top lawyer’s alcohol consumption. (Trump is known for being a longtime teetotaler.)

    The special counsel’s office declined to comment on this story on Tuesday morning. A Trump spokesperson and an attorney to Giuliani did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    Giuliani has repeatedly and vehemently denied allegations that he was drunk when he encouraged Trump, against the express wishes of some of the then-president’s senior aides, to falsely declare victory on Election Night 2020. The former New York City mayor has also pushed back on claims that his drinking contributed to his shift in public image from post-9/11 “America’s Mayor” to raging Trumpist. “I’m not an alcoholic,” Giuliani told NBC New York in 2021. “I probably function more effectively than 90 percent of the population.”

    None of this stopped claims of his public drunkenness from entering the public record, in the form of another high-stakes, wide-ranging investigation into the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and Trump’s efforts to cling to power.​

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...iani-jack-smith-donald-trump-jan6-1234814129/
     
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  7. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    (Trump is known for being a longtime teetotaler.)

    LOL.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Well, except for adderall.
     
  9. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    The drunk's history
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  10. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    Ground into a fine dust and snorted.
     
  11. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  12. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Jack Smith is funded through a specific, separate DOJ discretionary budget, IIRC. House Trumpers can't do shit.
     
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