Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

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The Supreme Court’s Fake Praying Coach Case Just Got Faker

 

Fucking reality teevee needs to be nuked off the face of the earth.

 

By the very end of the gospels, Jesus stresses, above all, he's the son of God. That's the crux of the rich young ruler conversation. The ruler is down for Jesus' teachings and laws. But he's not just going to give up everything to follow Jesus. So, he's out.

Which, if Jesus didn't rise from the dead, doesn't matter. If he did rise from the dead, it does.

 

Couple things here.

first, as a religious matter, Joe Kennedy is basically the hypocrite who loves to be seen to pray. He's not John The Baptist, he is, IMO, a fake self-absorbed holy man.

second, I think the 1st Amendment protects his fake holy man act.

If these justices cared to look, they could have forecast the twists that followed their decision in Kennedy v. Bremerton School District. The case was built on a shaky foundation: Kennedy and his lawyers, led by Paul Clement and the far-right First Liberty Institute, alleged that the school district instructed him to stop praying on the field during and after football games, and fired him when he refused. These prayers, he said, were hushed, personal expressions of faith that players were free to join or ignore. In truth, the prayers were a spectacle. Kennedy would gather students around him in a large circle, lift a helmet, and lead them in overtly sectarian prayer; non-Christian players felt coerced into joining, assuming that their coach would show favoritism toward those who participated.

No. You cannot feel coercion in this particular case without there being actual coercion, and the loudness of a prayer can't invoke feelings of being discriminated against if you don't partake. The whole point of the 1st Amendment is the "free exercise" of it.

Nor does the coach need to work in a job he was fired from to prove his point. That's silly. Making the point is the point, for its own sake.

 

Of course it can. Kids who didn't want to partake in prayer ... partook because the coach was keeping receipts on those who did not. That's how it works.

 

Do we know that the coach was keeping up with the participants (and non-participants)? (I WILL NOT use the g.d. "receipts" nonsense that's of the vogue.)

 

No, of course not. The angry God is not a good sell for Christianity.

 

It's the top answer on the board.

 

Is there evidence of this? A feeling is not proof.

 

Again: Are you saying Catholics don't believe Jesus is the son of God?

 

Does this apply to feeling God?

 

So no, there's no proof he was keeping receipts.

Because if there was - is - then he'd be in the wrong.