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Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by DanOregon, Apr 28, 2023.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    ok


     
  2. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Bibi basically cut Blinken's nuts off the minute he was wheels up. The Israelis will reap what they sow.
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You do realize that there is a great deal of anti-Judiasm to be found among people who are anti-Zionist, right?
     
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  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Of course.

    But it's worth reminding folks that criticism of Israel as a state is not inherently anti-Judaist or anti-semitic - or anti-Zionist.

    But there is nothing anti-Semitic about anti-Zionists who believe that the existence of a religious or ethnically defined state is inherently racist, and that the only real solution to the conflict is, as the Palestinian American advocate Youssef Munayyer writes, “equal rights for Israelis and Palestinians in a single shared state,” with a constitution that would “recognize that the country would be home to both peoples and that, despite national narratives and voices on either side that claim otherwise, both peoples have historical ties to the land.” Perhaps you think this idea naive or unrealistic; that is not an expression of prejudice toward Jews.
     
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    But saying "American is a melting pot" is inarguably white supremacist.
     
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  9. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    The simple answer seems to be to grant full independence to Gaza and the West Bank with free passage between the two. Voila! Two-state solution!

    Unfortunately, this will be a solution that will have to survive the Netanyahu government.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    What makes you think the Palestinians will accept it? Remember, Hamas runs Gaza and Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist.
     
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  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Assimilationist!
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Wasn't Herzl's original vision of Zionism a state for the Jews? Rather than a Jewish state?

    Same for Ben-Gurion.

    A state in which Arabs and Palestinians and Jews and Christians and Muslims all shared space and lived in harmony.

    That's what "anti-Zionism" sometimes describes these days (at least in that Atlantic piece I posted): the "single-state" solution.
     
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