Sixty Years Ago

Care to cite any reference to how many US citizens defected to and came back from Russia between 1958 - 1962? Then , cull that down to those that were in the armed forces in Asia at that time?

The Ruby comment is simply opinion, and simply nonsense.

Have you read either of the books I referenced? I think I know the answer to that...

 

Either we assume that 75-80 percent of Americans have been deluded since the assassination, or we must say the official story has failed to answer their basic questions. If TWO Presidents of the United States, each deeply steeped in political chicanery, thought the assassination was a conspiracy, that's one hell of lot more evidence than "something smells." Each had unlimited access to all information on the assassination. And the government story didn't add up for them.

 

Ummm... Your sarcasm detector needs work.

Guess I should have used the ol' blue font.

 

Ted Cruz's grandfather did it, lots of people are talking

 

I've read both those books, a book about Jim Garrison and a book called Texas Connection, all around two decades ago. Also read Roger Stone's book trying to make the case for LBJ around 10 years ago (last library book I've read, because I sure as hell wasn't giving him money).

You want to talk about opinions and nonsense? They're all full of them, as wells a lot of conjecture, rumor and malarkey. Their is little to no evidence to back any of it up, only bullshit. (Did you read Posner's Case Closed?)

The Ruby comment is opinion... the opinion Dallas cops, Mob members, girls who worked for him, friends, etc. As in the people who actually knew him! But what does it matter if actual Mafia people laughed at the notion of using him as a hitman? Some guy in a book made it part of the conspiracy, so it must be true. (He was such a prepared hitman, too. Left his dog in his car, did some errands and only showed up like two minutes before Oswald was transferred. And the transfer was way late, so it makes no sense why Ruby wasn't already there, if he was directed to by organized crime.)

I remember reading stories around the time of Snowden ending up in Russia 10 years ago that it was not an uncommon occurrence during Cold War. I remember distinctly reading about two NSA cryptologists who defected around the same time as Oswald. Found this on a Google search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_defectors_to_the_Soviet_Union

Couldn't find any of the articles, but I'm not going to go digging and waste any more time, nor any more time replying to you.

You want to believe, evidence be damned. Have at it. Ultimately doesn't affect me.

 

The uncut CBS footage is a trip.

It starts with 10 minutes worth of As The World Turns before the first bulletin (title card only - no such thing as the studio cameras cutting on instantly.) Uncle Walter shares what he knows for 60 seconds and then they go to a Nescafé ad, a sponsor announcement for ATWT, a little bit of dead air and another short title card for the soap opera before another audio-only bulletin. Then they join the show in progress and get through the rest of the scene and most of a Friskies ad before cutting to news coverage for good around the 18-minute mark. The video finally comes up a half-hour in.

 

No. No, it's not. It's evidence of nothing. It's two people's opinions.

But again, why follow the facts and actual evidence? If Johnson had a hunch Castro organized it, and Nixon thought the CIA was involved, by God, that’s evidence. [And it doesn't matter they both (allegedly) believed two different conspiracy theories.]

 

Getting back to the original spirit of the thread (no point discussing conspiracy further, nobody's minds are getting changed)...

I watched this today. Goes over a lot of what was talked about earlier in the thread re: Murrow and CBS reporting. Really interesting hearing Rather and other reporters who were on the ground talk about it.

If you have access to it (I subscribe to PBS Docs through Amazon), check it out.

JFK: One PM Central Standard Time ~ About the Episode | Secrets of the Dead | PBS

 

Cronkite talked about this in his book. In the days of the vacuum tube, it took the camera that long to warm up. After this, they kept a camera hot all day.

 

We have a news-talk station in Duluth that takes twice-hourly broadcasts from CBS. Honestly, it's a pretty way to get concise updates on stuff at the beginning of my day.

Your parents were good friends with Roger Sterling's daughter and son-in-law? Impressive. (That is a significant part of the very good Mad Men episode from that time period.)

 

WCBS in NEW York still plays a simulcast of the Evening News at 5:00. They also pick up the 1 minute updates at :31 when there is big news going on. Like you said, I haven’t heard any ABC News updates in a while.

I’ll second your comment in another post about listening to NPR during breaking news. They do a good job during debates and other big events.