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Baron Scicluna · Jan 7, 2024

I Should Coco said: ↑

Maybe Trump needs a break from the arduous campaign trail and should have a night at the theater. Is “Our American Cousin” playing anywhere?
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Lakeland Community Theater in March.

https://www.tampabay.com/life-cultu...ls/Our-American-Cousin/12374134/2024-03-20T19

Mar-A-Lago is less than 200 miles away and I’d imagine it’s be a short flight by private jet. Maybe someone can convince Trump to go?

Azrael · Jan 7, 2024

OscarMadison said: ↑

I lost my quotes, so apologies for this being way after the fact and without attribution.

Re. Amazon City in Nashville. Holy wasted opportunity, Batman! Of all the divisions they wanted to relocate to Nashville, they chose retail? The remnants of so many broad- and narrowcasting ventures are still here and still doing business and it never occurred to them to move their entertainment/production/cultural/whatever they call it arm here instead? Start making sense.

About Dr. Gay in particular and plagiarism in general... First, no, everyone doesn't do it. Some of us work/worked very hard at research, creation, and our craft to try to carve out space for new ideas in old arenas. I have experienced this in both academic and public milieus. So have friends and colleagues in both areas. I have tried hard to not make this personal and I am failing miserably at it.

If you've ever seen someone else's name on your work, you will get why we can feel sympathy for Dr. Gay, but at the same time we can remember the sting of being told that we need to understand because it is more important to elevate unheard voices, we can always do more work, it is somehow okay because the other person has the ear and attention of more important people, they are important and we should be honored. I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

I am aware that the people involved with what happened at Harvard were going after Dr. Gay for reasons that had little to do with academic ethics. What she did was not okay, but then it was not okay when Joe Biden did it, when Jill Biden did it, or when anyone else does it. Did she steal material for her dis? She deserved to be removed for that, not because she was a BIPOC with specific political leanings.
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What's going to be interesting going forward is how much academic fraud billionaire Bill "TL/DR" Ackman willingly or mistakenly exposes in his crusade for whatever it is he's crusading for. He's already made his own wife look bad. (Was she a DEI hire? Tenure at MIT is not nothing.)

The more cribbing he exposes at MIT, for example, the weaker his argument that Dr. Gay was some sort of elite institution outliar.

Hoist / petard / so forth.

Wife of Investor Who Pushed for Harvard President’s Exit Is Accused of Plagiarism

doctorquant · Jan 7, 2024

Azrael said: ↑

He's already made his own wife look bad.
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She made herself look bad. I mean ... wikipedia? Good God.

OscarMadison · Jan 7, 2024

Tacky, rude but funny hot take from a friend regarding Ackerman: "He who smelled it, dealt it."

DanielSimpsonDay · Jan 7, 2024

doctorquant · Jan 7, 2024

I suppose one of the upsides of being delusionally enamored of one's own writing is that one never thinks that what some other scholar wrote is "good enough."

The Big Ragu · Jan 7, 2024

Azrael said: ↑

What's going to be interesting going forward is how much academic fraud billionaire Bill "TL/DR" Ackman willingly or mistakenly exposes in his crusade for whatever it is he's crusading for. He's already made his own wife look bad. (Was she a DEI hire? Tenure at MIT is not nothing.)

The more cribbing he exposes at MIT, for example, the weaker his argument that Dr. Gay was some sort of elite institution outliar.

Hoist / petard / so forth.

Wife of Investor Who Pushed for Harvard President’s Exit Is Accused of Plagiarism
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You are framing him incorrectly.

He didn't spend weeks trying to argue that Claudine Gay "was some sort of elite institution outliar." In fact, to the contrary, he very specifically argued over and over again that her, Liz Magill, Sally Kornbluth, et al. were all symptomatic of a problem that was infecting A LOT of institutions.

When he began his crusade, it wasn't about Claudine Gay. It was about the student groups at Harvard that had circulated that letter saying that the Hamas attack was Israel's fault. It became about Claudine Gay because the university then did zero to address the concerns of alumni (many who had donated a lot of money but were otherwise asleep at the switch) who were startled by what they were seeing. In the weeks following, Ackman was dismayed (as were alums at other universities) that the atmosphere at Harvard was hostile toward Jewish students. And he turned it up.

He focused on Claudine Gay because she was responsible for a DEI regime (this has been her number one priority there) that is anything but what people think DEI is based on the actual words in the acronym -- at Harvard (under Claudine Gay) and at other places, DEI had overtly become about giving preference (the exact opposite of inclusion) to certain groups (based on their races, ethnicity, gender identities, etc), based on a warped oppressor / oppressed, privileged / disadvantaged ideology that has run amok. The reason she couldn't just come out and be as staunch about antisemtism on the campus the way she found her voice -- unsolicited -- when George Floyd was killed, was because she had a very specific ideology and agenda that isn't inclusive -- and is retributive in nature.

He wasn't wrong about any of that.

If you want to do a "ha ha" about his wife, knock yourself out. Ackman is Ackman.

But the tact you are on is a sideshow that is not what he was on his high horse about when this all started.

Songbird · Jan 7, 2024

And she fucked over that economist professor.

garrow · Jan 7, 2024

Some things are better off unsaid
Red hat in your hand and it's pointing at your head
We think you're mad, too unstable
Kicking in chairs and knocking down tables
In a dining room in a beach side town
Call the police, there's a mad man around
But the loons stand there spellbound
In a golf club in a beach side town

In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
Palm Beach girls

You got a jaw of glass or a Roger Stone
MAGA hammer man broke into your home
They've got no future
Can't study the past
Here today, such a blast
In every city, across the nation
From Lake Winnebago to the Sinclair station

In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
Palm Beach girls

Azrael · Jan 7, 2024

The Big Ragu said: ↑

You are framing him incorrectly.

He didn't spend weeks trying to argue that Claudine Gay "was some sort of elite institution outliar." In fact, to the contrary, he very specifically argued over and over again that her, Liz Magill, Sally Kornbluth, et al. were all symptomatic of a problem that was infecting A LOT of institutions.

When he began his crusade, it wasn't about Claudine Gay. It was about the student groups at Harvard that had circulated that letter saying that the Hamas attack was Israel's fault. It became about Claudine Gay because the university then did zero to address the concerns of alumni (many who had donated a lot of money but were otherwise asleep at the switch) who were startled by what they were seeing. In the weeks following, Ackman was dismayed (as were alums at other universities) that the atmosphere at Harvard was hostile toward Jewish students. And he turned it up.

He focused on Claudine Gay because she was responsible for a DEI regime (this has been her number one priority there) that is anything but what people think DEI is based on the actual words in the acronym -- at Harvard (under Claudine Gay) and at other places, DEI had overtly become about giving preference (the exact opposite of inclusion) to certain groups (based on their races, ethnicity, gender identities, etc), based on a warped oppressor / oppressed, privileged / disadvantaged ideology that has run amok. The reason she couldn't just come out and be as staunch about antisemtism on the campus the way she found her voice -- unsolicited -- when George Floyd was killed, was because she had a very specific ideology and agenda that isn't inclusive -- and is retributive in nature.

He wasn't wrong about any of that.

If you want to do a "ha ha" about his wife, knock yourself out. Ackman is Ackman.

But the tact you are on is a sideshow that is not what he was on his high horse about when this all started.
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It's certainly not where Ackman started.

But it's where he finds himself now.

Jesus_Muscatel · Jan 7, 2024

Songbird said: ↑

Basically Trump was jealous that Nikki got so much play with her Civil War slavery gaffe so he had to go bigger and stupider. He doesn’t care as long as everyone is talking about him.
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That's how that stupid, childish con man MFer rolls.

Jesus_Muscatel · Jan 7, 2024

garrow said: ↑

Some things are better off unsaid
Red hat in your hand and it's pointing at your head
We think you're mad, too unstable
Kicking in chairs and knocking down tables
In a dining room in a beach side town
Call the police, there's a mad man around
But the loons stand there spellbound
In a golf club in a beach side town

In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
Palm Beach girls

You got a jaw of glass or a Roger Stone
MAGA hammer man broke into your home
They've got no future
Can't study the past
Here today, such a blast
In every city, across the nation
From Lake Winnebago to the Sinclair station

In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
In a beach side town, a Desantis world
The Putin boys and Palm Beach girls
Palm Beach girls
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I like it. A lot.

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