2024 Baseball Hall of Fame thread

The only reason I think Posey could go in right away is that there are no other first-ballot types for 2027, he is the face of those three title teams and he walked away after a really good season so there was enough in the tank that he could have added to his career numbers -- he hadn't reached a decline stage yet.

I also think you are underestimating the Cardinal narrative that Pujols and Molina can go in together.

 

Posey's final season was -- .304 / .390 / .499 in 113 games 18 homers and 23 doubles in line with most of his career. His OPS+ was 140, his best season since 2014. He didn't play the year prior as a COVID opt out, although I don't know what you could have expected in such a short season sample.

He could have been a DH with those numbers if he wanted.

 

I think the fact that Molina played his whole career at catcher instead of moving to another position will bolster his case for the HoF. And I think he’s much more of a lock than some here do.

 

Final pre-announcement ballot numbers:

 

Elected:

Adrian Beltre
Joe Mauer

If they are going alphabetical, that means Helton missed

 

Todd Helton gets in

 

Wagner was five votes shy

Voting:

Name Votes Percent Year on ballot
Adrián Beltré 366 95.1 1st
Todd Helton 307 79.7 6th
Joe Mauer 293 76.1 1st
Billy Wagner 284 73.8 9th
Gary Sheffield 246 63.9 10th
Andruw Jones 237 61.6 7th
Carlos Beltran 220 57.1 2nd
Alex Rodriguez 134 34.8 3rd
Manny Ramirez 125 32.5 8th
Chase Utley 111 28.8 1st
Omar Vizquel 68 17.7 7th
Bobby Abreu 57 14.8 5th
Jimmy Rollins 57 14.8 3rd
Andy Pettitte 52 13.5 6th
Mark Buehrle 32 8.3 4th
Francisco Rodriguez 30 7.8 2nd
Torii Hunter 28 7.3 4th
David Wright 24 6.2 1st
José Bautista 6 1.6 1st
Victor Martinez 6 1.6 1st
Bartolo Colon 5 1.3 1st
Matt Holliday 4 1 1st
Adrián González 3 0.8 1st
Brandon Phillips 1 0.3 1st
José Reyes 0 0 1st
James Shields 0 0 1st

 

Helton got 26 more votes than last year
Wagner got 19 more votes than last year
Sheffield got 32 more votes than last year

Beltran gained 39 votes from last year
Andruw only got 11 more votes from last year

Vizquel dropped two more percent this year

 

Tennessee has more football players in the Baseball Hall of Fame that it has football players with Heisman Trophies.

 

Sheffield got screwed bc he got lumped in with Bonds whom he crashed with one summer before they had a falling out, but he was never cited as a PED user and Victor Conte said he didn’t supply him. Careful who ya associate with, kiddies.