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Running NHL 2023-24 regular season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Regan MacNeil, Oct 10, 2023.

  1. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member


     
  2. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    I'm good with this as a Kings fan. The team has bottomed out after a great start.
    GM Rob Blake may be next, especially after making what looks like a disastrous trade and extension for Pierre-Luc Dubois and his failure to get a No. 1 goalie (although that hasn't been the issue this season as Cam Talbot and David Rittich have held their own).
    I don't know anything about Hiller. They need a coach to come in and kick their asses like Darryl Sutter did in 2012 when they won their first Cup.
     
  3. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    NHL back in Olympics for 2026, 2030.
     
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  4. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    I'm sure this has nothing to do that we're done with Winter Olympics on the wrong side of the International Date Line for probably at least 15 years. (2026 is in Italy, it looks like 2030 is in France, 2034 in SLC and maybe back to Europe again in 2038).
     
  5. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    If you had told me that the Caps could win the Stanley Cup in 2018 but they'd not win another playoff series after that for a decade, I would have taken the deal. Good thing, because the team is in shambles and I can't see them making the playoffs this year or next. Oh, and Ovechkin's not breaking the record. I didn't expect him to crumble this like so quickly, but it's happening. Still 64 goals away. Too many. That was the only allure of this iteration of the Caps, watching him chase the record. And that's pretty much dead.
     
  6. Tighthead

    Tighthead Well-Known Member

    I saw he got his tenth last night and as someone who thought he’d get the record, it seems he may have hit the wall.

    They were discussing the Caps on the radio this morning and Darren Dreger said they won’t tear it down and rebuild “out of respect for the veterans there” which doesn’t sound like the best approach.

    Kuemper’s at .892 for the season. I always liked Charlie Lindgren, maybe he will see more starts.
     
  7. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    That's silly talk from Dreger. Oshie is playing well but he's 37 and only has one year left after this until he's a UFA. I assume he retires then. The only tradeable assets are Mantha, Kuznetsov (if he can keep his nose clean) and maybe (if you squint) Edmundson. No one is trading for Pacioretty. Dowd is probably gone because he's on a very friendly deal. If they can't get rid of those guys, you're building around a rapidly deteriorating Ovechkin, Tom Wilson, Dylan Strome, a soon-to-be 35-year-old John Carlson and Aliaksei Protas. And the Kuemper deal increasingly is looking like a bust. In no way, shape or form are the Caps "a move or two away" from contention. They're broken.

    But you can never take 2018 away from me.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I remember a few years ago telling you that even though the Caps were still a decent team, they were just getting old and their window was closing fast. It was the time to tear it down and begin a rebuild, but they decided to try to patchwork it around Ovechkin and make his getting the record the focus. I get it, but at the same time if I was a fan, I don't think I would have liked that.

    My team's window is open right now, but a few of their key players are right around that 30 year old mark. I don't feel great about their chances. They have a ton of skill and are fun to watch, but they disappear for long stretches at 5 on 5, the bottom six doesn't contribute enough, and if the playoffs follow the same path as they have with this core, they are going to be trying cross ice passes in the playoffs against a team that is playing a grinding, tougher game and putting the puck on net instead of trying to make pretty passes. Winning a cup is tough enough for the best teams, they need to figure out playoff hockey better.

    They are also some serious holes. I don't want to overstate Filip Chytil's importance, he is super talented but hasn't put it all together. The injuries derail him, and those concussions are an issue now. Him being shut down for the season really hurt, and my heart goes out to him, because concussions are serious and his career is (or should be, if he is taking a long term view) in serious jeopardy. They need a third line center now. Trocheck has stepped in next to Panarin, and is better than Chytil would have been, even if Laviolette wanted to give Chytil a shot at it. Also. ... the problems at right wing are inexcusable -- Blake Wheeler is fine to have at $800K a year, but he is not a top line winger now, but he's been forced into that role with Kakko going down and then just not being able to handle being the man. It's been 3, 4 years and they still have the same problem they have every year at the trade deadline. Last year's moves, Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarsenko were splashy, but it just didn't fit right in the playoffs. I wish they could go a full season with a couple of right wingers to match what they have on the left side and let things gel.
     
  9. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

  10. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

    I really miss that stuff.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Late. ... But. ... In the moment, I am sure we can all understand being really pissed off and just reacting the way Morgan Rielly did.

    I'd rather see someone who gives a shit like that than the guys who are going through the motions from games 10 to 75.

    I watched the skills competition during the All Star weekend, and Nikita Kucherov loafing around while all the other superstars were putting on a semblance of trying, annoyed me.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2024
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  12. mateen

    mateen Well-Known Member

    A part of me completely gets what happened, and had Rielly just shoved him into the boards, or tried to get him to fight, I wouldn't see it as a problem. I've been around hockey my whole life and totally understand how some sort of response is part of the game's accepted culture.

    But a larger part of me sees the shaft of his stick against Grieg's head, which looks a lot like what sidetracked Paul Kariya's career, and wonders how such a disproportionate response to nothing more than getting their feelings hurt by something that didn't put anyone at physical risk can somehow be part of a "code" that we should want to have.
     
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