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I don't think the framers envisioned a world where people routinely lived into their 80s.

 

Maybe, but a quarter of the signers of the Declaration of Independence lived into their 80s, and the average age at death of the 56 signers was 66.

Basically, if you survived birth and childhood diseases you could expect a decently long life.

 

This is a bit ahistorical. In the run-up to U.S. entry into WW2, the America First movement was predominantly Republican isolationists (motivated in no small part by Nazi sympathies and antisemitism) while a Democratic president was doing all he could to aid the Allies in the face of isolationist resistance in Congress. The creation of NATO (an entangling alliance with the U.S. leading it) was at the hands of a Democratic president. Opponents to U.S. intervention in Korea in 1950 (Truman sending troops without consulting Congress) were Republican isolationists. While Ike sent the first military advisors to Vietnam, Democrat JFK boosted their presence and Democrat LBJ secured the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution from a Democratic Congress. During the Carter and Reagan years, a narrative developed of Democrats being dovish or "weak" on foreign policy (though in 1976, VP candidate Bob Dole railed against "Democrat" wars, inventing the use of the term "Democrat" as an adjective as opposed to "Democratic" -- can't have that). And Desert Storm, the Iraq War and OEF were initiated by Republican presidents, but with Democratic support in Congress (in no small part to counter the aforementioned narrative).

In short, Democrats in the last 20 years haven't "suddenly" embraced war. They've supported warring nations and/or sent boots on the ground to counter Nazi and Communist threats (disastrously in the case of Vietnam). And they've cynically supported wrongheaded Republican-initiated wars to provide political cover for themselves.

 

More recently they've stood by Ukraine in the face of Putin's onslaught and they've supported their ally in a war against a terrorist organization bent on its destruction in the wake of the most violent attack on Jews since the Holocaust. It's been ugly and said ally has made some strategic mistakes while waging a war against an enemy that hides among the civilian populace to maximize civilian casualties, uses a tunnel network to protect its operatives while hanging out civilians to dry and which hijacks humanitarian aid. Plenty to criticize Israel about but those who fail to put the real blame on Hamas have lost their way or have questionable motivations in the first place.

 

It took a hundred years for the Turks to admit to the Armenian genocide.

Same with the Holodomore.

It took about two weeks for Israel's war to be termed a genocide.

 

How many people in the USA, UK, etc.etc., hang their heads in shame on the day when the bombing campaigns began in either Gulf War?

 

Charlie Kirk: Embryos should be saved from a burning building before live babies

 

A Michigan state Rep., a Republican, posted pictures of young men getting on busses off a plane at Detroit Metro airport on Xitter and demanded to know where the "illegal invaders" were going. They were Gonzaga.

 

As long as you lived in an established city instead of the frontier and didn't perform manual labor. It was easier to live to 80 as a "planter" than a farmer, because the slaves did all the hard work.

 

An appeals court had ruled that S.C's voting districts were racially gerrymandered. The Supreme Court heard an appeal in this case in October, but sat on ruling on it until it was too late to replace the voting maps before the next election. A fat Republican thumb on the scales.

 

Yep, was just coming over to post. Never miss a chance to be hateful and paranoid is the conservative way.