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RIP Bill Walton

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by UPChip, May 27, 2024.

  1. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Yes, I was thinking of him too.
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Kareem was an arrogant ass, who treated fans and the media with disdain while he was playing. It's a large part of the reason he doesn't get as much GOAT acknowledgement as he probably deserves. He was aloof at best, and a major league asshole to people at worst (and I saw this first hand, well after he had retired).

    He's softened up a little in his 70s, but it would be a real stretch to call him friendly or someone who a lot of people felt fondly about personally. Any positive memories of him that most people have are of him as a player, not really him as a guy. Friendly would be the last word I come up with for him.
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Kareem was not a people person, let's put it that way, until later in life. It's OK to grow, even when old. I think all the great centers have had some degree of alienation from the world, especially when they played, if only because their height set them so far apart from others. Add introversion to the mix, and it's the young Kareem, proud, smart, and not a little distrustful of others. Russell channeled his alienation into activism, Wilt into hedonism, and so on. Also, every center of note was roasted thoroughly through some or all of their careers. Russell was arrogant, Wilt selfish, Kareem uninterested, Walton a malingerer. Even Shaq took enormous heat as a fraud until he got to LA. If they had dim views of their fellow man, they had their reasons.
     
  5. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    When he passes, younger people will look at his stats and highlights, possibly for the first time, and be awestruck.

    Then an old man will bitch that he wasn’t friendly enough.

    Jordan wasn’t exactly warm and cuddly, either. They just played in different decades and one didn’t change his name.
     
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  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I always think of Grant Hill when I think of “nice guys.”

    Also, not quite the same, but by almost all accounts, John Cena is a great guy.
     
  7. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    Cena without a doubt an amazing human. It’s just he’s in a niche “sport.”

    This is a rare air list.

    There are a lot of Freddie Freeman’s but they don’t have the national spotlight.
     
  8. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    He comes off as a bully or a horse's ass a lot of the time. He's kind of in the same zone as The Rock, where you can feel that he's got enough ego that it prevents people from fully embracing him. I'd contrast that from Arnold Schwarzenegger, who's not exactly had a perfect personal life, but seems beloved by most who have met and worked with him.
     
  9. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Shaq has always come across to me as an unlikeable ass.
     
  10. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

  11. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Steph Curry is definitely one of the "best" guys around. Buster Posey too (no this isn't about the local guys, I'm not nominating "myself" as one of the good guys).

    He wasn't an all-timer on the field but damn that Warrick Dunn did some fantastic work getting homeless people into homes.

    IF Lebron didn't whine so much for 280lb steamroller with the agility of a downhill skier and a Ferrari engine, I'd nominate him.
     
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  12. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    You two should meet. I'd watch that even on pay-per-view.
     
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