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The Economy

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, May 14, 2020.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    So why are prices now retreating?
     
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    According to the BLS (the same administration the FTC works for), prices are not retreating. The rate of growth has slowed down. But that isn't retreating. Pick your index. ... the CPI showed a broad basket of consumer prices last month rising at 3.4 percent year over year (forget the fact that the number is BS. ... prices are rising at a higher rate than that).

    And the idea that there is such a cause and effect relationship, that anyone can answer your question is precisely why we have a price fixing authority that exists to monetize debt under the guise that it can precisely calibrate the economy like Merlin the Magician.
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    One other thing. ... Of course the current administration, which has run up a trillion dollars of new debt every 100 days that is what precipitated the debt monetization that caused consumer prices to spike, wants to blame the thing everyone is blaming them for on anything EXCEPT themselves. To the point that they went full populist with demonizing "greedy corporations."

    What is interesting (and which I had forgotten, even though I saw this and laughed), is that the San Francisco Fed put out their own bullshit study that told Biden to fuck off with "corporations are unilaterally causing inflation with mark ups" stuff.

    Corporate greed not to blame for price pressures, Fed study shows

    The Kabuki Theater part of it for me is that the Fed is actually more directly responsible for what happened with prices, in that if it is"indepedent" the way they are quick to tell you, it didn't have to monetize all of that debt and they could have cut the treasury off and let them create a dollar funding crisis if they wanted to keep running up debt the way they have.

    But in the Fed's report. ... they don't point the finger at themselves, of course. At least they have the dignity to not pin it on an unpopular boogey man.
     
  4. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    So Amazon, Walmart, Target and others cutting prices on items that have gone up in price isn't a retreat on prices?
     
  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Same at my Kroger here. Third time I've seen them do it in the past couple of months. Also have seen a "digital deal" of 12-pack of Coke products for I think $4.99, limit of five.
     
  6. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Don't forget to factor in shrinkflation.
    "Still only $1.99 (but half the size it was, shhhhhh)!
     
  7. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Just make sure you get all five 12-packs. First time I saw that, it seemed like such a weird sale that I figured it was buy two, get the third free. When I went through the checkout and it rang up for $30 I noticed it. The sale price doesn't kick in until you ring up the fifth one (and swipe your Kroger card).
    Thankfully, the cashier straightened me out and let me play Supermarket Sprint to go fetch two more 12-packs.
    $4 a 12-pack for Coke is a good deal. I've been stocking up.
     
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  8. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    As a former Kroger stocker, I know all the ways they try to keep you from getting the discount. Don’t get me started on the digital coupons. You stand there scanning it over and over in a giant metal building that kills every cell signal within ten miles.
     
  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I was just thinking about that FTC thing we were discussing yesterday. ... Milton Friedman was wrong about a lot of things. ... when he got out of the realm of economics and into the realm of trying to centrally plan the economy via moneterism.

    But he was right about the basic cause of "inflation."

    The more things change. ... the more they stay the same, though.

     
  10. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

  11. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    THIS PERFECT STORM USHERED IN A NEW REGIME where prices are becoming increasingly unmoored from the fundamentals, like the cost of labor or materials. In its place, a new corporate credo on pricing has emerged: The best price is the one consumers are willing to pay. A fair price for everyone is increasingly becoming a thing of the past.

    https://prospect.org/economy/2024-06-03-age-of-recoupment/
     
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