Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Seems to me not much has changed since this was published.

https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.00583-23

It is worthwhile to consider what type of evidence would definitively rule in or rule out either the zoonotic or lab leak hypothesis. Scientific evidence alone is likely to be insufficient to provide a definitive answer (1). In fact, the types of evidence needed for ruling in and out the two hypotheses are quite different. Establishing the lab leak hypothesis would require evidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was working on a CoV very closely related to the original Wuhan strain, and such evidence would have to come from laboratory records. Had the WIV been working on such a virus, evidence of a laboratory accident and/or that some of the initial cases had come from individuals at the WIV would strongly support the possibility of a lab leak. While the Chinese government has denied that such work was being done by the WIV, transparency is lacking (2). Unless such evidence is forthcoming, the laboratory leak hypothesis cannot be confirmed. Conclusively establishing the zoonotic hypothesis requires finding evidence of the original animal-to-human infection event(s). This is difficult because these events likely occurred unnoticed, and there may be no record of their eventuality. However, the recovery of a CoV that is closely related to SARS-CoV-2 from bats and/or intermediate hosts would support the hypothesis that the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic was initiated by a zoonotic event. As discussed below, however, the needed exploration of multiple species for CoV prevalence and diversity will take time to achieve.
In addition to requiring very different sources of data, we must realize that the levels of certainty required to definitively prove either the lab leak or the zoonotic hypothesis differ significantly. Specifically, it should be possible to rule in or out the lab leak theory with information from the WIV, if such information exists. In contrast, unequivocally ruling in or out the zoonotic explanation is not possible since the evidence will always depend on certain probabilities, and certainty is impossible without knowledge of the initial events.

 

To the families of the millions killed by this thing, the origin doesn't matter. Their loved ones are dead. Same for the folks who have/had long COVID.

This BS comes up every four to six months and people claim to have new evidence and certifiable answers, but they don't. I stopped caring about the stupidity years ago.

 

Better stop em.

America has serious culture war issues. It does. COVID exacerbated them for sure. We're prone to believing some of the worst things about each other.

 

And Slobbo loves to stoke the embers.

Trump has given the Democratic Party more money than I ever have.

 

Are we sure about that? If it was a lab leak, and people weren't transparent about it being a leak - that lack of transparency potentially costing us solutions or more efficient solutions. I have to think accountability would matter, just as it would for a victim of Bernie Madoff who lost all their money. They don't get their money back, but there's accountability. That matters, doesn't it?

 

I doubt we’ll ever know for certain how it happened. What I do know? The chucklefuck trumplicans who put on another embarrassing, disgusting show today with Fauci have absolutely no interest in actually finding out.

They’ll continue to scoop up their own shit and smear it around as long as they have a microphone and platform.

 

Ultimately, Trumpists are not mad at Fauci because a lab that accepted US dollars may have played with fire and burned the planet. They are mad at Fauci because he believes that in times of full-blown viral infestation, responsible humans place restraints on their public presence. Also: vaccines.

 

Who let these nut jobs into the hearing?

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Trump is a conspiracy theorist (Scalia was murdered, Obama birth certificate, etc) who also is such a massive egotist that he thinks that Covid was created to harm him. It allowed the basest instincts of his party (which is now his party) to spread all sorts of rumors. Very real questions can and should be asked about how the pandemic was handled but everything has been overwhelmed by the GOP mountain of bullshit.

 

The “credibility matters” dipshits are claiming he admitted the 6-foot rule was made up.

He didn’t.

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