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garrow · Jun 22, 2024

That quote is such f*cking bullsh*t.

1. They've never seen Democrats in the White House before?...we still got capitalism pal. 2. Trump is a threat to capitalism too, you smug pr*cks, because he is just chaos. How much precious certainty will there be for the markets when he is on his revenge tour? Or when he f*cks up a major challenge like covid?

Kathy Wylde, president and CEO of the Partnership for New York City, a nonprofit organization that represents the city’s top business leaders, said Republicans have told her that “the threat to capitalism from the Democrats is more concerning than the threat to democracy from Trump.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...rned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-trump-00162219

goalmouth · Jun 22, 2024

"Republicans have told her..."

LOLOLOLOLOL

Michael_ Gee · Jun 22, 2024

By "threat to capitalism" business leaders mean "my taxes might go up and my workers might form a union."

I Should Coco · Jun 22, 2024

How about Trump’s promise to replace income taxes with tariffs? I’m sure that will be great for the economy …

DanOregon · Jun 22, 2024

Anyone who banks on Trump doing any specific thing if he's elected is an idiot.

dixiehack · Jun 22, 2024

DanOregon said: ↑

Anyone who banks on Trump doing any specific thing if he's elected is an idiot.
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I feel safe betting on the line marked “Fucking Up.”

Starman · Jun 22, 2024

garrow said: ↑

That quote is such f*cking bullsh*t.

1. They've never seen Democrats in the White House before?...we still got capitalism pal. 2. Trump is a threat to capitalism too, you smug pr*cks, because he is just chaos. How much precious certainty will there be for the markets when he is on his revenge tour? Or when he f*cks up a major challenge like covid?

Kathy Wylde, president and CEO of the Partnership for New York City, a nonprofit organization that represents the city’s top business leaders, said Republicans have told her that “the threat to capitalism from the Democrats is more concerning than the threat to democracy from Trump.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...rned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-trump-00162219
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vigorous jacking-off motions

Webster · Jun 22, 2024

garrow said: ↑

That quote is such f*cking bullsh*t.

1. They've never seen Democrats in the White House before?...we still got capitalism pal. 2. Trump is a threat to capitalism too, you smug pr*cks, because he is just chaos. How much precious certainty will there be for the markets when he is on his revenge tour? Or when he f*cks up a major challenge like covid?

Kathy Wylde, president and CEO of the Partnership for New York City, a nonprofit organization that represents the city’s top business leaders, said Republicans have told her that “the threat to capitalism from the Democrats is more concerning than the threat to democracy from Trump.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...rned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-trump-00162219
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I would love for people who say that to explain what they mean.

outofplace · Jun 22, 2024

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I'm going to respond to this, because you asked.

Yes, I think she was assaulted when she was 12, based on her accusations and Morris's admissions.

I don't know what kind of pressure there was. I wasn't privy to the goings-on at the time. But she wasn't 12 when she started trying to address the situation with church officials. She was 35, and she had meetings with Morris regarding her allegations at that time (2005), as well as a couple of years later (2007), when she apparently got serious and retained a lawyer. I read somewhere that her parents were also involved with those meetings, and if they were not satisfied with the results of those encounters, it was incumbent upon the the family to go to the police. In fact, they should have gone to police much sooner -- indeed, before approaching any church officials. I think this is where things got hung up.

I don't intend to blame the victim or her family regarding that, but this is a major issue in the case. Both the legal statute of limitations, and, most likely, even the civil case, are long expired, according to the laws at the time during which the sexual abuse took place (although that would not be true were it to have been happening now). They would've had an even stronger case if, as it seems, Shady Oaks church officials at the time did not report the Clemishire accusations once they were made aware of them, as the law requires. So, all the more reason to involve the police.

The Dallas Morning News article below addresses the statute questions/situation well, if others can read it (I'm not sure of that).

Gateway Church founder Robert Morris accused of past abuse. Could he be charged?

To answer your question, though, if Clemishire had still been a child, or even a near-adult teenager, I could see there being pressure. But otherwise, as an adult, if she wanted real, legally applicable justice, no, I don't see it, particularly if she had the support of her family, and I'd have gone straight to the police if Shady Oaks officials did not do so at the time. Morris was a nobody back then, and would've been arrested, at least, and maybe even charged, with at least something.

Also, no, I don't see the likelihood of anybody jumping for joy in this situation, or as I thought Clemishire did, sounding too gleeful about anything. It makes me question her motives, sure, in part, because of my own feelings of upset over Morris. But it really rubbed me the wrong way.

I tend to be a forgiving person, and certainly, I try to be when it's called for. I just don't usually see, forever and always, no matter what, someone's worst act being necessarily the only thing that matters in their life. Particularly if there is evidence of change, betterment, and...good, as I believe there has been in the case of Morris.

So, the rest of my view on this is emotional: This, to me, is a vengeance quest, and maybe, a money grab, after too long a time, given that there is unlikely to be either a legal or civil case at this point.

I know I do wonder about Clemishire's parents -- she first told them about Morris's abuse when when she was 17 -- and now, I wouldn't mind being a fly on the wall in the Morris household, either. Like it or not, the Morrises are very church-oriented -- both of the pastor's sons are also pastors -- and his daughter's a missionary, I think.

Anyway, I do hope Clemishire finally gets what she wants out of this situation, although, as I've said, I don't really think she will. And yes, I hope the Morrises, and Gateway Church, too, also recover, in time.

This is the last I will say about this topic unless and until something new arises, perhaps as a result of Gateway Church's investigation, or some other news.
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You say you don't mean to blame the victim or her family, then you go on to blame the victim and her family. Fucking disgusting, especially because even you know he is guilty of the act and of covering it up for decades.

Inky_Wretch · Jun 22, 2024

According to Trump, somebody told him if they build electric semi trucks they will have to stop six times when driving coast-to-coast. Current trucks don’t have to stop at all, he said.

Songbird · Jun 22, 2024

goalmouth · Jun 22, 2024

Why his rotting brain doesn't lead the news every day is an indictment of the fukchead media.

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